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Diver Dead in South Florida

Discussion in 'Accidents and Incidents' started by Manatee Diver, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. Protondecay123

    Protondecay123 ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    There is a difference between having laboratory detectable levels of a drug and being under the influence of it. Marijuana can stay detectable for up to 30 days in your bloodstream after usage.
     
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  2. hroark2112

    hroark2112 Tech Instructor

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    IIRC the amphetamine is from weight loss pills. Not like she was a meth addict tweeker under the influence. I’m sure if I took a blood test I’d pop positive for amphetamines as well since I’m on Adderall. I disclose it on any dive medical release and keep a current doctor signed physical on file just in case, but I don’t think either drug she allegedly had in her system had any impact on the accident.

    The best swimmer you know, 100% free of any kind of drugs in their system, is not going to out swim a 40’ boat in reverse. Add in all the gear, waves, and a boat backing down on you and none of us would have stood a chance.
     
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  3. gamon

    gamon Regular of the Pub

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    From what I read, a diver on the previous day's charter was resourceful enough to get out of harm's way.
     
  4. Barnaby'sDad

    Barnaby'sDad ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    That diver had a speargun in hand to use as a dive boat stick. Resourceful? I believe that lucky is the word you’re looking for there.
     
  5. gamon

    gamon Regular of the Pub

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    Well let's see.. assuming everything posted is true.

    1- The marina was closed to recreational dive charters due to COVID- yet he went out anyway
    2- On the very first day operating the new boat with divers, he had difficulty controlling the boat and ran aground damaging the rudder- yet he went out the next day anyway
    3- He almost backed over a diver on that first day who saved herself using a speargun to hold her away from the props- yet he went out again the next day anyway.
    4- Numerous divers begged him not to go out until he got more experience and repaired the damage to the boat- he went out anyway.

    He certainly can't say he wasn't warned

    True, I'm thinking of options for us non spearfishers... not much you can do with a snorkel.
     
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  6. hroark2112

    hroark2112 Tech Instructor

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    Lucky is definitely the word. Resourceful too, but damn lucky!

    I was trying to get up a ladder one day in similar conditions. The waves picked the back of the boat up and I caught the dive ladder in the sternum. Knocked my breath out of me, hurt for a few days. It all happened so quickly I barely had time to react. Lucky for me I learned to dive in NC where we are told by boat captains to leave our regulator in our mouth until both feet are on the deck. I was under water for a few seconds and was thrown face down away from the boat. As long as I could breathe I was OK, so nothing more than bruised ribs and a badly bruised ego!
     
  7. Cert1967

    Cert1967 Let's Go Skiing

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    According to the newspaper article?
     
  8. gamon

    gamon Regular of the Pub

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    It would have been more accurate for me to post "according to the article" however almost everything in the article is "according to the lawsuit".
     
  9. Basking Ridge Diver

    Basking Ridge Diver Solo Diver

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    I had no idea so I looked it up.

    Mayo Medical Laboratories provides an estimated duration period for various types of marijuana users:

    Marijuana Detection Times (Urine):
    Single Use3 Days
    Moderate Use5 Days
    Heavy Use (Daily)10 Days
    Chronic Use30 Days

    How long can a drug test detect marijuana in your system? Weed stays in your blood for two to seven days and in your urine for up to two months.
     
  10. Catito

    Catito Barracuda

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    What? That diver was very lucky. I do not use a speargun. In the same situation my dive knife would not save me. Terrible tragedy by a Cpt who was irresponsible.
     

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