Do all rebreathers require a bailout bottle on board ?

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Hello divers

Just a random thought that pop into my head. So why do you need a bailout bottle if you have a diluent bottle full of air? Why can't you just flip a switch on your mouthpiece and go to your diluent bottle and use that as an emergency gas to get you to the surface? The bottle line is if i am not diving too deep and have enough diluent gas on board. Maybe this is a dumb question but i can't seem to find an answer. P.S. i am not rebreather certified, but going to very soon.

Which unit are you going to get?
 
Why the sport?
 
Some rebreathers don't require that you use a separate diluent bottle. I dive the Chest mount O2ptima, which is typically setup with an onboard O2 bottle and you use your full sized bailout as the diluent source. You still have to ensure you have an adequate amount of bailout gas, after accounting for your planned diluent usage, with this type of setup however.

Same here with my Triton. 10L cylinder backmount used both as diluent and BO. When I dive dry, I juste add a small tank on my back plate, dedicated to my dry suit.
 
A bailout is only required if something goes wrong with the rebreather.
The size of the bailouts (multiple are often needed when deco is involved) is based on the profile of the dive.
Doesn't matter if the bailout is onboard or not, just that you have it and enough of it.

On a shallow, no deco, no overhead, just get in the water dive I will typically just bring an AL40 of air. That slings just like the AL40 of deco mix on the bigger dives. So same basic gear configuration. And I keep adding bottles to keep up with bail out needs as the dives get bigger.

The issue of using the DIL for bailout is if the reason for the bailout is something wrong with the DIL. And there is so little of it to start with. 23 cubic feet is the start of the day, but on the bottom on the second dive of the day it can be half of that.
 
Do you prefer using sidemount setup or the backmount setup for the O2ptima?
For me, it just depends on the situation. Backmount is definitely easier for boat dives or similar. In a cave, it depends on how open the cave will be. Something wide open I'd probably choose the backmount LP50s typically right now, but sidemount if I would be doing something with smaller passages.
 
Poseidon seven sport

To the original question, I always dive with off board bailout.

I dive the Poseidon Se7en and am also curious why you are choosing the sport? I would suggest going with the Se7en + Rec. It comes with the M28 and SS sensors. Then when you decide to go deeper with it, you can get the cylinder inversion kit and MAVs.

I have used both the paddle and the M28 and I personally do not like the paddle. It works but tends to like colder water and can be difficult to read in warmer conditions. You will also need the pre-dive list of test codes with you so you know what it is telling you or asking of you. The M28 does a better job of telling you what it is doing and what it wants you to do. Sure, you will learn what the paddle is asking over time but I also find the wet switches to be finicky.
 
To the original question, I always dive with off board bailout.

I dive the Poseidon Se7en and am also curious why you are choosing the sport? I would suggest going with the Se7en + Rec. It comes with the M28 and SS sensors. Then when you decide to go deeper with it, you can get the cylinder inversion kit and MAVs.

I have used both the paddle and the M28 and I personally do not like the paddle. It works but tends to like colder water and can be difficult to read in warmer conditions. You will also need the pre-dive list of test codes with you so you know what it is telling you or asking of you. The M28 does a better job of telling you what it is doing and what it wants you to do. Sure, you will learn what the paddle is asking over time but I also find the wet switches to be finicky.
the main reason I choose the sport is simply because of the price :). The type of diving I do as a diver who will use the rebreather only for recreational depth, I don't find the REC to be too useful. Sport has everything that I need. I think If I ever want to go deeper, i can switch to M28 and upgrade in the future
 
the main reason I choose the sport is simply because of the price :). The type of diving I do as a diver who will use the rebreather only for recreational depth, I don't find the REC to be too useful. Sport has everything that I need. I think WHEN I want to go deeper, i can switch to M28 and upgrade in the future

Fixed it for you.
 
https://www.shearwater.com/products/perdix-ai/

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