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JimC:ScubaFreak, you don't know me, you have never seen me - diveing or otherwise. Shove your personal attacks where the sun don't shine.
JimC:Things I have seen or experinced when I used one:
- Grabing it instead of inflator
- Acidently breathing it at depth
Mark Vlahos:With the long hose configuration, my main second stage is routed down my right side, under my canister light on my right hip, then up across my chest and over my left shoulder, around the back of my neck and to my mouth. My backup second stage is on a short hose and hanging below my chin on a bungee necklace. If I need to donate a regulator to an out of air diver he or she will get my primary (on the long hose) and I will switch to the neckalced short hose. In the process of donating the long hose regulator to this unfortunate diver I grab the hose just next to the second stage and take the regualtor out of my mouth and present the regulator to this diver. When I move the regulator toward the other diver I tilt my head forward slightly to allow the hose to come over the top of my head. If I were wearing a snorkel it could become entangled in the hose and possibly remove my mask. This would not be a disaster but it could serve to further complicate an already stressful situation. So, for me, no snorkel on my mask while under water.
The folding snorkel in my pocket is intended to be brought out only in situations where it would be of considerable value on the surface. I have been on dives in the ocean where the conditions on the surface were less than ideal and I was required by circumstance to wait for several minutes while the boat picked up other divers. If the surface is choppy and you are low on air in your tank, it can be really nice to have the option of breathing from a snorkel rather than consuming the air in your tank. The snorkel I have is small and the lower portion is scrunched into the upper portion like an acordion or a bendable straw. I pull on the mouth piece and the tube gets longer, I fold it into a "J" shape and put the mouthpiece in my mouth and I am good to go. The snorkel does not have any of the features intended to keep it "dry" so I do need to watch out for water in the tube, but I am willing to make this compromise. For me it is the best of both worlds. Although I did not get mine from Scubatoys, they do sell the type I use so follow the link and scroll down to the Avid Snorkel. There is actually a pretty good drawing of how it works on the right.
Mark Vlahos
I can't say I agree about your gas management, but I wasn't asking about that... if anything I was asking about your experience with donating a long hose while wearing a snorkle, and how it is you avoid entanglements while doing so. As far as I can tell, everyone who mentioned snorkels as an entanglement hazard is either doing wreck penetration or diving a long hose, and you said that despite what we all think, it isn't so. I'm curious how you come to that conclusion.RP Diver:My gas management is just fine, thanks for asking.
Perhaps, so long as nothing goes wrong. That's maybe not such a good thing to count on though. Suppose you buddy had an equipment failure late in the dive and it was he who needed you to share air? Suppose after you surfaced, you lost a fin? Sure, everything worked out okay, but with 100psi 1/4 mile from the boat, you didn't leave much of a safety margin... even if it was shallow water. I'm glad to hear you don't make a habit of it!RP Diver:We were shallow enough on that dive that 100 pounds was plenty of reserve.
That sounds like the best argument for wearing a snorkle on scuba I've ever heard.ScubaFreak:I dive off Inflatable ribs with no ladder. Standard exit technique allows me to hand up my gear to the boat and then climb in. Therefore, I wear a snorkel.