• Welcome to ScubaBoard

  1. Welcome to ScubaBoard, the world's largest scuba diving community. Registration is not required to read the forums, but we encourage you to join. Joining has its benefits and enables you to participate in the discussions.

    Benefits of registering include

    • Ability to post and comment on topics and discussions.
    • A Free photo gallery to share your dive photos with the world.
    • You can make this box go away

    Joining is quick and easy. Login or Register now by clicking on the button

Don't know what happened

Discussion in 'Near Misses & Lessons Learned' started by Dody, May 2, 2021 at 12:28 PM.

  1. Edward3c

    Edward3c Instructor, Scuba

    A Dive Leader is not a professional qualification, see the link.
  2. Dody

    Dody Contributor

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Amstelveen
    I don’t know because I can’t transport myself into the future. But I have a slight idea.
    In one year, I will have more experience. Will the haters be different? No. But they will surely find other targets.
  3. Can't Talk ... Diving

    Can't Talk ... Diving Contributor

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: West Coast
    Once again, if you are assisting with training you are diving professionally, whether you see it that way or not. That's an inescapable fact.

    Secondly, no one on the Internet can know what exactly happend on that dive that caused you to fall behind. People have given dozens of educated guesses but you don't seem to think they fit so it will remain a mystery unless you eventually figure it out yourself after aquiring more experience.

    Bottom line, I would suggest you focus on doing a bunch of fun diving well within your current training level in different environments if possible. You will naturally have experiences that cause you to grow and learn about the nuances of the sport that can't be taught in a class setting due to time limits. Enjoy the experience; don't rush the process.

    You may want to seek out different instructors at some point if you want to progress with training to get a more rounded perspective. Your original instructor - great person though they may be - perhaps wasn't the greatest mentor.
  4. rmssetc

    rmssetc Contributor

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Philadelphia
    I'm going to make the attempt to contribute something positive to this thread -- think of it like paying for all the popcorn while I enjoy the entertainment.

    Based on your description above, and making the assumption that you were actually negatively buoyant with 6KG when you did the pre-dive weight check, my guess is that you had a significant amount of air in your BCD during the whole dive -- enough to make descending difficult and enough to add a lot of drag.

    As someone with barely double your self-professed number of logged + un-logged dives, I know that it's quite possible to leave a bubble of air in the BCD, and I also know that when I'm stressed I find myself adding more air to the BCD, or not releasing as much as I would when comfortable. Perhaps this was happening for you, when you describe being stressed with the task of being a DM, with low viz, loosing contact with people under your care, etc.
    chillyinCanada likes this.
  5. rmssetc

    rmssetc Contributor

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Philadelphia
    Somehow, this bothers me more than all the other nonsense in this thread.

    I truly hope that what you wrote above was just casual bad wording, and could attribute some of it to English not being your first language.

    I truly hope that you do not believe that the multiple people with a great deal more experience who are trying to help you actually "hate" you and that you are somehow their "target".
  6. Dody

    Dody Contributor

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Amstelveen
    Ok. Really, I don’t want to regularly act as a DM or a DL. I just want to help as needed.
    I usually really like your comments and accept most of them. But in this case, you are wrong. I am not saying that the educated guesses that people gave me don’t fit. I just did not get the silver bullet. Especially because some comments are contradictory or complementary. So I listen and integrate everything. I store it in my mental database. But do I take it as granted? No. Unless it is certain.

    Much of my dives are fun dives. Just for the sake of diving. Within my boundaries. Never solo, never below 40 meters, no wreck or cave diving. No cold water. I have never done fresh water but I have nothing against it.
    What can frustrate me is that some posters don’t understand that and interact while they should stay away. But this their right.
    I never actually looked at bubbles in my BCD or wetsuit. I will. Thanks.
  7. Dody

    Dody Contributor

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Amstelveen
    Truly? They are some very good people like you. And they are too many « jokers » that you can’t get rid of no matter how hard you try.
    This is life. This is internet. We just have to live with it and find solutions for the future.
  8. eleniel

    eleniel Photographer

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Utah
    RyanT and Raphus like this.
  9. scubadada

    scubadada Diver Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: Philadelphia and Boynton Beach
    Hi @Dody

    It may be that you have obtained most or all of your training and diving in the same place, too provincial. You may benefit from diving and or training in a different place, with different people, a fresh start and evaluation.
    Biotech Diver likes this.
  10. Scuba Client

    Scuba Client Contributor

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Australia
    Why swim against a current, when it's more fun to swim across and with it. Your proposed techniques can cause CO2 retention and hyperventilation. The long fins/different fin techniques, I agree.

Share This Page