Fourth Element Dry base?

[Aquabot]

I need some opinions on the FE Dry base undergarments. I currently have the arctic set and its like diving in a sauna in FL springs. Im thinking about using the dry as a stand alone undergarment. What say the masses?

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[CptTightPants21]

arctic in FL...I feel bad for you.

You want the fourth element xerotherm.

It's lighter, wicking and should be good for temps in the low 60's to mid 70's.

 

[Aquabot]

arctic in FL...I feel bad for you.

You want the fourth element xerotherm.

It's lighter, wicking and should be good for temps in the low 60's to mid 70's.

Yeah I was drenched in sweat lol. Oddly tho I did not feel hot at all. In my wet suit I am more than comfortable in a 5 mil.

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[C Dub]

I own both the Artic and Drybase. The drybase is thicker than I thought it would be (in a good way, I thought it would be more like a thin set of under armor). Turns out it worked very well this summer in SoCal when the water temps were high 60's to high 70's.

 

[Aquabot]

I own both the Artic and Drybase. The drybase is thicker than I thought it would be (in a good way, I thought it would be more like a thin set of under armor). Turns out it worked very well this summer in SoCal when the water temps were high 60's to high 70's.

Interesting

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[CptTightPants21]

Interesting

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I have no experience with the drybase. I dove arctic for a year and I recently picked up a set of xerotherm. My experiences might also be colored by the fact that I dive a CF200 and not a thin trilaminate suit.

In the summer I was diving a pair of military thermals (patagonia capilene 3 top and bottom) and arctic socks. I picked them up for $33 a piece ($66 total) online. The capilene was great when the water was in the high 60's and 70's above the thermocline or the St. Lawrence. When I was diving deeper than 30ft or in places with multiple thermoclines (water in the low to mid 50s), I would mostly dive the arctic. I might mix and match, dive the capilene for one dive if I wasn't going to be at depth too long. While the cold was bearable for these dives, they were within NDLs and it was noticeably "cooler".

I don't know if what kind of suit you dive or if your body runs hot or cold, but if you are looking to save some money than take a look at the patagonia and see if it suits your needs. If money isn't an issue, I would look at the xerotherm. Good wicking layer, better thermal protection/wider temp range. I'll probably make the xerotherms my standard light undergarments, but I haven't had a chance to dive them in warm water.

On a personal note, I never really understood how someone could overheat in their suit until I did a dive in my arctic undergarments where the majority of time was spent above the thermocline in water ~72 degrees. I was so warm I was ready to say f**k it and flood the suit.

 

[Aquabot]

I have no experience with the drybase. I dove arctic for a year and I recently picked up a set of xerotherm. My experiences might also be colored by the fact that I dive a CF200 and not a thin trilaminate suit.

In the summer I was diving a pair of military thermals (patagonia capilene 3 top and bottom) and arctic socks. I picked them up for $33 a piece ($66 total) online. The capilene was great when the water was in the high 60's and 70's above the thermocline or the St. Lawrence. When I was diving deeper than 30ft or in places with multiple thermoclines (water in the low to mid 50s), I would mostly dive the arctic. I might mix and match, dive the capilene for one dive if I wasn't going to be at depth too long. While the cold was bearable for these dives, they were within NDLs and it was noticeably "cooler".

I don't know if what kind of suit you dive or if your body runs hot or cold, but if you are looking to save some money than take a look at the patagonia and see if it suits your needs. If money isn't an issue, I would look at the xerotherm. Good wicking layer, better thermal protection/wider temp range. I'll probably make the xerotherms my standard light undergarments, but I haven't had a chance to dive them in warm water.

On a personal note, I never really understood how someone could overheat in their suit until I did a dive in my arctic undergarments where the majority of time was spent above the thermocline in water ~72 degrees. I was so warm I was ready to say f**k it and flood the suit.

Went ahead and ordered the dry base. Simply because it was cheaper and I dont nessasarily get cold to easy. My side mount course was done in 70 degree f water with a BT of about 133 in a 5mil lol. My suit is a pinnacle trilaminit. Ive only dove my arctic set in FL springs, where the majority of my diving is anyway, and needless to say I had underestimated the thermal capabilities lol.

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[Malibugary]

Why not just get some Under Armour cold gear. I use that with my Fusion Bullet @60* and warmer. With the combo of dry gloves and thick hood it's perfect.

 

[Aquabot]

Why not just get some Under Armour cold gear. I use that with my Fusion Bullet @60* and warmer. With the combo of dry gloves and thick hood it's perfect.

I've never used UA products and definitely don't have a need for dry gloves in FL springs lol

All in all I was/am very happy with the drybase. Avg temp was 68. I did get chilly but my suit also leaked non stop too (4 days and 8 dives). I have a new SEAC suit coming so that with the drybase I think Ill be more than warm enough.

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[Malibugary]

68* and I'd just use a moisture wicking layer. I take it no thermoclines in the springs?