Fresh water coral?

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Stalactites hang tight to the ceiling.
 
do it easy:
They also don't grow in water- they form in air, and then are subsequently flooded.

You are correct, but I was just answering the person who couldn't remember which was which.

I couldn't remember until about a week ago when someone told me a neat way to remember. :wink:
 
Doing It Easy, I've also noticed several forms of freshwater sponges in the St Lawrence, some are flat, some have finger-like projections, and others look like clumps of a white/greenish tissue. None higher than 1.5 inches. Anywhere from 20 ft down to 120 ft level, on rocks, wooden and steel wrecks. They're soft to the (gentle) touch, in both current and non-current pasts of the river.

There were some last year and way more this year. Maybe they've been there for a few years, and I'm only noticing them now, or maybe they've grown a lot in the past season.

I can see how someone could think that the finger-like ones would look like coral.
 
bottomfeeder22:
I used to get them confused until someone told me that StalacTites are on the Top.

Just last week they came up in conversation, and I said I could never remember which was which. My friend taught me this "stalactites hang tight to teh ceiling while stalagmites might reach the ceiling". Finally, I can remember. At least for a week. :D
 
StalaCtite - Ceiling StalaGmite - Ground

When the bride and I were dating, this was my way of remembering. She being a Geologist, I needed to show (YAWN) interest in her calling.
 
archman:
Hmmm... I had to think about this statement.

Okay, I'll amend my earlier response.
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The only way anybody could confuse freshwater sponges with corals is if said person normally confused corals with marine sponges, macroalgae, tunicates, and encrusting bryozoans. :thumbs_up:

Ha ha.

Are there some organisms now in the Great Lakes that came in from the sea? Isn't the sea lamprey one of these?
 
Stalactites stick tight to the cieling.

Stalagmites just might get up that far - then we call the columns.

Hank49:
Are there some organisms now in the Great Lakes that came in from the sea? Isn't the sea lamprey one of these?
Yep, the only one I can think of from the ocean; others from other freshwater sources.

This does kinda look like a soft coral to a novice...

fwsponge1.jpg


Archman is an expert in the area, and if he says it's not - discussion is really over, but I can see me thinking it was.
 
Hank49:
Are there some organisms now in the Great Lakes that came in from the sea? Isn't the sea lamprey one of these?

Yeah, but lampreys are diadromous. Anthozoans are all marine. So are the hydrozoan milleporinids. Ergo, no freshwater corals. Putting aside the lack of dissolved minerals needed for calcium accretion, there's a frightful osmotic imbalance to consider.

Unless one likes *exploding corals*. Hmm... that does sound fun.
 
Why no fresh water corals?

I am not a marine biologist, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. I think it has to due with several energy and efficiency issues. Fresh waters tend to be slightly tubid and Scleractinian corals (hard corals) need clear water for the symbiotic algae (zooxanthellae) in their cells. These zooxanthellae use the sun's energy to convert carbon dioxide from the seawater into energy-rich sugars and fats. Any excessive organic compounds that the algae don't need for their own respiration and growth are available to the host coral. In return, the zooxanthellae have a safe place to live within the coral tissue and the algae uses the coral's waste nutrients for growth. Plus most fresh waters tend to be slightly acidic. And calcium carbonate is dissolved by acid. So....the individual Scleractinian coral polyps would have to expended an enormous amount of energy (probably more then they can generate) to secrete and maintain their skeleton structures through deposition of calcium carbonate in fresh water.
 
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