hbhobby
Contributor
condolances and prayers to the family
I hate to see the lifeguards, firemen and EMS personell being criticized! :depressed: I am sure they were doing the best they could witht he situation at hand! I speak from experience of having worked in EMS/fire and emergency room for the last 10 years as a medical professional, that just because someone comes up and says "I am a doctor I can help" does not mean anything. I have been on accident scenes and have had "doctors" that are in way over their heads or they are family practice doctors who have no clue about emergency medicine and the proceedures involved. Pre hospital emergency medicine is WAY different than family practice and even different than hospital emergency medicine. So just because someone comes up and says "I'm a doctor" or NP or PA or EMT or whatever DOES NOT mean that the care they would give would be any better than what EMS is already doing. Then there is the whole legal aspect of turning care over to someone who you have no idea if they are MD, DO, PA, NP, RN, DC, DPM, or PHD, just because they say they are a doctor. It is easy to say that I could have done so much more when in reality a study (I cannot find the reference right now) showed that paramedics were 30% more likely to have successful intubation than even Emergency Room Physicians (not just some MD, DO, PA, NP,etc who walks up and says "Im a doctor") So when I come upon a scene that has EMS staff there I explain who I am and offer to help if they refuse, it is totally their discression and I would NEVER criticize them for whatever choice they make. It also sounds like in this situation that if he had been missing for 10 - 30 minutes they may have been going through the motions to give comfort to the others involved. and I am not a doctor I just play one at work all day.
Just my opinion
I hate to see the lifeguards, firemen and EMS personell being criticized! :depressed: I am sure they were doing the best they could witht he situation at hand! I speak from experience of having worked in EMS/fire and emergency room for the last 10 years as a medical professional, that just because someone comes up and says "I am a doctor I can help" does not mean anything. I have been on accident scenes and have had "doctors" that are in way over their heads or they are family practice doctors who have no clue about emergency medicine and the proceedures involved. Pre hospital emergency medicine is WAY different than family practice and even different than hospital emergency medicine. So just because someone comes up and says "I'm a doctor" or NP or PA or EMT or whatever DOES NOT mean that the care they would give would be any better than what EMS is already doing. Then there is the whole legal aspect of turning care over to someone who you have no idea if they are MD, DO, PA, NP, RN, DC, DPM, or PHD, just because they say they are a doctor. It is easy to say that I could have done so much more when in reality a study (I cannot find the reference right now) showed that paramedics were 30% more likely to have successful intubation than even Emergency Room Physicians (not just some MD, DO, PA, NP,etc who walks up and says "Im a doctor") So when I come upon a scene that has EMS staff there I explain who I am and offer to help if they refuse, it is totally their discression and I would NEVER criticize them for whatever choice they make. It also sounds like in this situation that if he had been missing for 10 - 30 minutes they may have been going through the motions to give comfort to the others involved. and I am not a doctor I just play one at work all day.
Just my opinion