divinginn
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how about the 50 cal bmg shell what would that do to a tank filled with water and plugged?MikeC:
How tough are Al tanks versus steel tanks?
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hdtran:Yes, let me state that the toughness of Aluminum vs. Steel is extremely dependent on the alloy and temper. 1100 Aluminum, for example, will elongate forever. I believe Aluminum tank are made from a 6000 series alloy, and the temper state is one of the work-hardened tempers (2-3 digits). The specific measurement that you want is the Charpy or Izod toughness. (Minor differences between the two; Charpy is more likely the one you want). (And no, Izod test has nothing to do with alligators)
The tensile strength of a hardened aluminum alloy can be higher than that of a soft steel (I can quote you alloys), but since I have no idea what alloys are used in tanks, I'll shut up here...
You sound like a metuallergist or maybe my material science professor. But yeah he's definitely right about the alloy. Steel can also be extremely brittle or softer depending on how its created and tempered.
MichaelBaranows
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100 O2 will not explode either. O2 is any explosive. it just makes flamable material burn mroe completely and faster. And I don't see that the tracer will make any difference.
Michael, as long as the impact of the bullet hitting the tank doe not extinguish or dislodge the burning material (phosphorus) in the base of the bullet, then the O2 should cause the phosphorus to really burn and possibly the tank material as well.
In my thinking it would be the same as exposing a burning torch to 100% O2.
Any metal and gas experts???
In my thinking it would be the same as exposing a burning torch to 100% O2.
Any metal and gas experts???
jonnythan:
The important thing to remember is that supersonic bullets (i.e. all high powered modern rifles) discintegrate and lose their power within 3-5 feet of water penetration. So at least you are safe while diving
(from recent Mythbusters where they tested everything up to a 50 cal).Safe diving
Bjorn
jeckyll:The important thing to remember is that supersonic bullets (i.e. all high powered modern rifles) discintegrate and lose their power within 3-5 feet of water penetration. So at least you are safe while diving
Safe diving
Bjorn
If you believe that, then I have a bridge I would like to sell you. Perhaps a bullet fired within a few feet of surface of the water will behave like the Mythbusters showed, but if say the shooter is on hill, 50-100 feet, above your place in water and the bullet drops some speed, it will penetrate the water and still have energy to injure or kill you. Place of impact determines what happens.
daniel f aleman
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Aluminum alloy 6061 for standard tanks; general tank information.
Courtneyf82
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I like the laughing during the slow-mo replay
Leadking
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hdtran:Yes, let me state that the toughness of Aluminum vs. Steel is extremely dependent on the alloy and temper. 1100 Aluminum, for example, will elongate forever. I believe Aluminum tank are made from a 6000 series alloy, and the temper state is one of the work-hardened tempers (2-3 digits). The specific measurement that you want is the Charpy or Izod toughness. (Minor differences between the two; Charpy is more likely the one you want). (And no, Izod test has nothing to do with alligators
The tensile strength of a hardened aluminum alloy can be higher than that of a soft steel (I can quote you alloys), but since I have no idea what alloys are used in tanks, I'll shut up here...
Charpy is spec'd by the DOT
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