identify these west atlantic jacks

[svs]

Can you ID jacks? With few exeptions (e.g. bar jack they look very similar). Two pictures from florida are attached. One bigger another smaller. Are those the same species or different. Sorry for the quality, I had to reduce file size.

 

[ringojcp]

that's an almaco jack or seriola rivoliana on the right, your pics gives me a head ache

 

[ringojcp]

the one on the left may be a seriola hippos, i'm not too sure, maybe if you had a different angle pics
and no, i do not mean the samson fish and i don't think you'll be able to find a pic on the net that easily of it

 

[maractwin]

The one on the left looks to me like a rainbow runner, Elagatis bipinnulata.

-Mark