Microsoft new "LongHorn" OS, What OS do you run on your PC ???

What OS do you run on your computer now ?

  • Microsoft ( Windows 9x, Me, Xp, 2000 ..etc.)

    Votes: 24 63.2%
  • IBM OS/2

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • LINUX (any flavor , Redhat, BSD, Corel ....etc.)

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • UNIX

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • Apple MAC

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • Dual boot Linux & Microsoft

    Votes: 5 13.2%

  • Total voters
    38

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Windows XP has been on the market for a year now, so naturally
everyone is clamoring for details on the next version of the
world's most popular operating system -- or so Microsoft Corp.
hopes.

Details are dribbling out, but Microsoft won't say a word on the
record, declining to comment for this story. Analysts and software
developers haven't been briefed, either.

But here's what has leaked out so far.

The next version of the world's most popular desktop operating
system, code-named "Longhorn," is due out in test form next year
and in final form in 2004. It will have a new look and feel, very
different from Windows XP's. Its guts will also be radically
different from Windows XP's, because they're based on XML --
extensible markup language, the emerging lingua franca of the
Internet. And it will be the first version that won't function
fully without new hardware.

"With the possible exception of Windows NT, which was a change from
the ground up, this could be the biggest change ever" to Windows,
said Giga analyst Rob Enderle.

Observers believe that Longhorn will:

Create a new file system that replaces FAT, FAT32 (an acronym for
File Allocation Table) and even the newer NTFS (the Windows NT file
system), the most modern ways of storing data in Windows. To make
life easier for computer users, it will simplify locating data by
using the file name or content, regardless of whether data is
contained in a spreadsheet, a word-processing document or an e-
mail. After-market products do this now, but they impose a
performance penalty.

Enderle said the new file system will also function efficiently
with hard drives holding at least one terabyte of data. That's
1,000 gigabytes, or well over 1,000 compressed movies, or more than
700,000 novels the size of "War and Peace." Such drives are
expected to hit the market by 2004.

Creating such a file system is an extraordinarily difficult task,
one that has been attempted for years by database companies,
including Microsoft, but that has never reached fruition.

The guts of the new file system are being engineered mainly in
conjunction with "Yukon," Microsoft's code name for the next
version of its SQL Server relational database management system.

But a beta version of Yukon isn't due out until mid-2003, which
makes some onlookers wonder how the file-systems team in the
Windows division can get started on adapting that technology for
more general-purpose use.

"Evidence they're making some progress would be a professional
developers' conference explaining it, so developers can know what
they need to know to use it," said Michael Cherry, an analyst with
Directions on Microsoft in Kirkland. "I don't even see a date
scheduled for one."

Even if such a file system can be achieved, it would have to be
thoroughly tested before use, as converting data to the new system
would be necessary -- but could destroy the data.

Present a single, unified way of interacting with programs.
Microsoft doesn't think computer users should have to use one
program to read and write a word-processing file, another to use a
spreadsheet, and a third to correspond via e-mail. Rather, the
company thinks, a single program should handle it all.

Obviously this means a thorough overhaul of not just Windows but
also the Office software suite, Chief Executive Steve Ballmer has
confirmed in published computer-industry reports

However attractive and effective such a new interface might be, the
company may be overestimating users' willingness to change their
habits, some analysts say.

Once it's understood where certain tasks must be performed, many
users are content to go there, even if the set-up is -- as computer
geeks would say -- sub-optimal. Whether users will be willing to
learn a new way of using their computers just because it's "better"
is open to question.

Not to mention the expense of installing new software, says Cherry.

"There will have to be compelling reasons" to install the new
operating system, because "it costs corporations a fortune to roll
it out," he said.

Include enhanced security. Longhorn will be the first operating
system designed for use with PCI Express, the motherboard design
that will succeed the PCI standard currently in force, Enderle
said. In addition to providing a performance boost of up to eight
times current speeds, the new design is required to harness the
increased security features of Longhorn, which Enderle said are
embodied in Microsoft's "Palladium"-branded trustworthy-computing
initiative.

"Neither Linux nor Unix ties the operating system to hardware," he
said.

"This could bring a higher level of security than anything we've
ever seen. It will almost completely prevent the platform from
being compromised."

To those "facts" about Longhorn, add the hopes of other analysts.
Ideally, Longhorn will "fundamentally integrate" audio, video and
images in a "visually stunning" manner, much like the Mac's OS X,
said Tim Bajarin, president of the Campbell, Calif., research firm
Creative Strategies Inc.

It should also be able to synchronize the multiple PCs, personal
digital assistants and computer-equipped cell phones -- Microsoft
calls them SmartPhones -- many people will own, Bajarin said.

But getting Longhorn out the door at Microsoft could be a
challenge. The company is struggling to get .Net Server -- the
first server version of Windows XP -- shipped. It also has service
packs for Windows 2000 and Windows XP to produce on an ongoing
basis. And a new operating system takes at least 20 months,
sometimes 40 months, Cherry said.

"I'd like to see Microsoft act like the operating-system leader it
is, not promising scores of new features or letting rumors fly but
stepping forward and saying, 'We will have X, Y and Z features and
not A, B and C,' " he said.

"That would be leadership, especially when so many people are
dependent on you."
 
I thought this MCSE was going to be worth something.

It also sounds like techs are going to be busy when it rolls out because no one is going to know how to work on it.
 
Seriously, i dont think it will happen. Microsoft cannot force all PC users to buy new Hardware just for their new OS.

Initial phasing out maybe but not total wipeout over the weekend !!! :)

My 800 mhz PIII provides me way more CPU power than i need !! now only i can say the same about the Graphics card !!!!

WHen I cannot meet the requirement to play the latest SIMCITY is when i will upgrade my Hardware :D
 
It is up to what the manufactures do. If all the new systems are coming out with it then all the software will start to be written for it. and on and on and on....

Also you know some companies will just have to upgrade as soon as it comes out. Who cares if they have anyone who can operate it. It is just Microsoft right, any of the techs should be able to fix it just like they could (insert OS here) :D

Chad
 
it is a little puzzling that microsoft keeps changing its os (9x, Me, 2000, XP and upgrades all the time...etc etc etc and keep making money of selling them. I would be happy if they just made one right or fix the problems with the one that they make instead of moving on to another one:rolleyes:

Just my $02 cents
 
You actually think they would perfect something before moving on
 
ckharlan66 once bubbled...
I thought this MCSE was going to be worth something.

It also sounds like techs are going to be busy when it rolls out because no one is going to know how to work on it.

I've got two MCSE's, CNE (Novell), and 18 years in the business. I was laid off a month ago, and havn't been able to find a job.

I've played the certification game in the belief that it would give me some job security, and that's simply not true. No more certs for me, I'm getting too old for this #^&@!:bonk:
 
Yea when I got it all anyone wanted to hire me for was Help Desk work at less money than I could make in my other career. Oh well I just keep doing sideline work on my own like I had been doing for years anyway.

It at least sounds impressive when I tell people Microsoft has cert. me to work on there stuff.

Good luck in the job search.

Chad
 
anyone know if you didnt upgrade to WK2 MCSE from your NT4 MCSE if you loose your MCSE status? This was the impression i got from a few people. Any truth to it ?

The cert doesnt mean much in the work place. They care if you know what your doing, not if you have some cert card.

Not to mention the cost of those dang exams, not cheap!

Andy
 
Trymix,

It is my understanding that they ended up not cancelling the certs due to the amount of negative feedback they got. I am not sure though since I am not actively working in the field I have not followed it.

I am sure someone around here will know for sure.

Chad
 

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