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New Diver Medic Training

Discussion in 'Advanced Scuba Discussions' started by BoundForElsewhere, Dec 6, 2019.

  1. BoundForElsewhere

    BoundForElsewhere ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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  2. markmud

    markmud Self Reliant Diver--On All Dives. ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Hi BoundForElsewhere,

    OK, I will bite on this topic...

    So, I looked through the prerequisites and course syllabus. It is a 20 hour academic and two day hands-on course. If you pass you are branded a DMT.

    I was thinking EMT/DMT equivalence here. But:

    Course Overview (for EMT)

    The course consists of 176 hours of classroom time that includes hands-on skills training sessions. The student is also required to complete two, 12-hour shift in the prehospital setting where they will ride-along with an ambulance crew. Students who successfully complete this program are eligible to take the National Registry of EMTs cognitive exam which is a computer adaptive test (CAT), as well as the National Registry of EMTs.
    Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) - INHS Health Training

    To become an EMT you must perform a lot more training. While the title DMT sounds good, it is not the scuba world's equivalent of EMT.

    If EMT was a prerequisite for the DMT course, I would really think highly of it.

    My thoughts: This is another really cool title without the training from the scuba diving industry.

    I wish the marketing people from the scuba world would allow the lawyers to tone-down some of these titles.

    I am sorry for being a killjoy again.

    cheers,
    m
     
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  3. RichieRich1042

    RichieRich1042 ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Mark,

    I completely agree with you. I've worked EMS for years and with all the new training and guidelines that come out, there is no way 20 hours is enough time. Plus, I saw that the pre-requisite is only having the EFR done through an approved dive agency. Last I checked, EFR was just CPR and first aid. In fact, I usually tell people to do the AHA course instead of the EFR (I may be biased on that as I was an AHA instructor).

    I hate to say this but if someone took this course and then tried to say they were a "DMT" with nothing other than EFR, they would be laughed at. Harsh yes, but also true.
     
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  4. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Who would say this? Do people say they are EMTs after taking a first aid class?
     
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  5. Bob DBF

    Bob DBF Solo Diver

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    I would guess anyone who took the IMCA DMT course. Same way anyone would say they have OW, Rescue, or Master Diver, that's what it says on their certification.


    Bob
     
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  6. RichieRich1042

    RichieRich1042 ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I was responding to the comment on their website that certifies them as a DMT after doing essentially 20 hours of training and 2 days of clinicals when the only requirement is being EFR certified. If the course was more along the lines of 150-200 hours with 2 days of clinicals, then it would make more sense.
     
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  7. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Yeah, they shouldn't use the term DMT, since it already has a different meaning.
     
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  8. BoundForElsewhere

    BoundForElsewhere ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    But it comes with a certificate and a badge!

    But then, so does master diver...
     
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  9. Bowers

    Bowers Public Safety Diver

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    To further the argument, around here “medic” refers to a paramedic not an EMT. Thats hundreds more hours of class and hundreds of hours of clinicals more than an EMT. To use the term “medic” for a 20 hour course is terrible..
     
  10. RichieRich1042

    RichieRich1042 ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Exactly...in some states like mine (NY) or NJ, it's a full 2 years Associates degree. I mean ya know...unless you're some Jolly Volly EMT's that swear they know everything. In that case, you're a whacker. Lol
     
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