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Palm Beach diver loses arm as group hit by boat - Florida

Discussion in 'Accidents and Incidents' started by soldsoul4foos, Nov 28, 2019.

  1. Diver below 83

    Diver below 83 Regular of the Pub

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    sorry I was going to use for shore diving not boat diving.
     
  2. Bob DBF

    Bob DBF Solo Diver

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    It’s a blow up, leave it deflated ‘till needed.


    Bob
     
  3. islanddream

    islanddream ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Thank you so much for keeping Carter and his family in your thoughts and prayers!
     
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  4. PBcatfish

    PBcatfish Regular of the Pub

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    Unfortunately, I too have seen both commercial & private dive boats put several divers in the water with no marker.
     
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  5. tekkydiver

    tekkydiver Regular of the Pub

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    Never a problem, been using it for years. Love the elimination of flag line drag.
     
  6. 2airishuman

    2airishuman Solo Diver

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    It depends on the jurisdiction.

    In Minnesota, you need a flag if you have SCUBA gear in your possession, even if you're on the surface with your mask off. But if you are snorkeling, and do not have SCUBA gear in your possession, you do not need a flag.
     
  7. 2airishuman

    2airishuman Solo Diver

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    Go to any of the boating websites and read some of the posts regarding safe operation and rules of the road. Most boaters are clueless and know it. A minority of boaters think they know the rules but get them wrong in important ways. There are very few (recreational) boaters who are serious about safety and getting it right, I would guess fewer than one in ten. It is a cultural thing. The selective, revenue-driven enforcement makes worse. People get ticketed for BWI and for equipment violations and, rarely, no-wake violations, not for COLREGS violations, and certainly not for ignoring a dive flag.
     
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  8. 2airishuman

    2airishuman Solo Diver

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    Location: Greater Minnesota
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    1) The MAKO Spearguns hard floats are not legal in Minnesota because the flag isn't high enough above the water. This is also a reason to use something else in other places as the elevation makes a big difference in visibility.

    2) When boaters see a flag here they are most likely to come over and look at it to see what it is because they honestly do not know. Therefore I ordinarily do not tow one because they attract more boats than they keep away. It may be different in Florida but I am not so sure. I avoid diving areas with heavy boat traffic or dive them on days/seasons/times when no one is out or dive from a boat with a flag on it, which people will avoid.

    I have a compliance flag that I use if I am trying to avoid a ticket. I have a big flag that I use if I am trying to avoid getting hit.
     
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  9. CuzzA

    CuzzA Solo Diver

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    We usually investigate anything floating on the water. Natural human instinct, though for us it's usually picking up the half dozen or so mylar balloons we find every trip. Nevertheless being divers we would proceed with caution and of course wouldn't invade a diver's down space.
     
  10. 2airishuman

    2airishuman Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Greater Minnesota
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    In most jurisdictions it is not possible to operate a jet ski / PWC / whatever and have fun without violating the law. There are all kinds of restrictions, no wake within certain distances of shore, or certain distances of other vessels (including other PWCs), etc.

    So people who have them just ignore all the laws and if they draw a ticket they figure that is part of the cost of the activity. Up here it's like $125 including all the taxes and surcharges, and no matter how many you rack up it will not affect your insurance rates or anything else that matters. No one cares, because the dollar cost of a day on the water on a jet ski is already much greater than that.
     
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