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THANK YOU! Porn and the glorification of women as sexual objects has no place here.

I personally am a little sad to see the management of ScubaBoard bow to the wishes of a few. First off, the pictures in question were commercially available pictures found on the internet, they were not candid shots of celebrities taken by paparazzi without the consent of the subject, these were the same types of photos taken by professional photographers of models who posed with full knowledge that their photos might or might not be widely circulated. None of the pictures that I saw would be considered porn, as porn embarrasses the heck out of me. I saw nothing more revealing than I see on the sun deck of a liveaboard on any given weekend. That includes bare breasts, bikini bottoms so low cut that the wearer's mons pubis shows out the top, or women so hairy that their pubic hair shows out the bottom. Those of us comfortable with our own bodily limitations don't make a big or a little deal out of it. I have been known to wear a sparkly thong, and God knows, I don't have the body for it, but I am comfortable with my limitations, so it is a joke rather than a creepy situation. When we have a lech (or a creeper) on the boat, I make sure to pull them aside and tell them to be more discreet in their obvious stares. The offended parties tend to be those who nobody would give a second glance anyway.

We are all sexual objects, as we reproduce as well as have the capacity for enjoyment from and by sex. It doesn't really matter if you are attracted to the same or opposite gender, or both, or if you like fatties or skinnies or another skin color or folks with purple hair and piercings. Everyone is a sexual object for someone. Those who don't revel in and are indeed glorified by their partner, partners, objects of desire, or fantasies of choice are sad individuals indeed.

The name of the thread included the term "Hot Chicks Thread". I can assure anyone reading the name that the thread wouldn't be about baby chickens in an incubator. If photographs of the female body offends anyone, I would suggest that the offended party not open the thread. The thread was in The Pub, which is an opt in thread. If you are offended by something you might see in a forum that has far fewer rules than (although still abides by the TOS for the board), then I would suggest that the offended party not subscribe to the offensive forum, that way there will be no chance of seeing the offensive thread, and therefore no chance of being offended. I have opted out of the technical diving forums for exactly that reason, even though a large number of my clients frequent that forum.

I personally believe that political correctness has no place in society as an institution. If I choose to be offended by gun nuts, gold hoarders, porn viewers, tea partiers, and the Congress of the United States of America, then I won't go where those people are present. I am offended by the use of the word "*******", so I don't hang out where people use the word. I choose to be offended by Ted Nugent, so I don't listen to his music, but I don't try to ban Ted Nugent or gun nuts from public forums, the forums are public. It's my choice to be offended, so I make it a habit not to go where those things that offend me exist, because I understand that the Motor City Madman has a following. Mostly of gun nuts.

As a fairly large advertiser on ScubaBoard, I would like to see a stricter TOS if one is needed rather than censorship because of an offended party. Censorship is bad for business of any type. Being offended is just a part of life, completely under the control of the offended party.
 
I'm left scratching my head over the logic gap between sexual and sexist, but whatever works for the powers that be.
 
I personally am a little sad to see the management of ScubaBoard bow to the wishes of a few. First off, the pictures in question were commercially available pictures found on the internet, they were not candid shots of celebrities taken by paparazzi without the consent of the subject, these were the same types of photos taken by professional photographers of models who posed with full knowledge that their photos might or might not be widely circulated. None of the pictures that I saw would be considered porn, as porn embarrasses the heck out of me. I saw nothing more revealing than I see on the sun deck of a liveaboard on any given weekend. That includes bare breasts, bikini bottoms so low cut that the wearer's mons pubis shows out the top, or women so hairy that their pubic hair shows out the bottom. Those of us comfortable with our own bodily limitations don't make a big or a little deal out of it. I have been known to wear a sparkly thong, and God knows, I don't have the body for it, but I am comfortable with my limitations, so it is a joke rather than a creepy situation. When we have a lech (or a creeper) on the boat, I make sure to pull them aside and tell them to be more discreet in their obvious stares. The offended parties tend to be those who nobody would give a second glance anyway.

We are all sexual objects, as we reproduce as well as have the capacity for enjoyment from and by sex. It doesn't really matter if you are attracted to the same or opposite gender, or both, or if you like fatties or skinnies or another skin color or folks with purple hair and piercings. Everyone is a sexual object for someone. Those who don't revel in and are indeed glorified by their partner, partners, objects of desire, or fantasies of choice are sad individuals indeed.

The name of the thread included the term "Hot Chicks Thread". I can assure anyone reading the name that the thread wouldn't be about baby chickens in an incubator. If photographs of the female body offends anyone, I would suggest that the offended party not open the thread. The thread was in The Pub, which is an opt in thread. If you are offended by something you might see in a forum that has far fewer rules than (although still abides by the TOS for the board), then I would suggest that the offended party not subscribe to the offensive forum, that way there will be no chance of seeing the offensive thread, and therefore no chance of being offended. I have opted out of the technical diving forums for exactly that reason, even though a large number of my clients frequent that forum.

I personally believe that political correctness has no place in society as an institution. If I choose to be offended by gun nuts, gold hoarders, porn viewers, tea partiers, and the Congress of the United States of America, then I won't go where those people are present. I am offended by the use of the word "*******", so I don't hang out where people use the word. I choose to be offended by Ted Nugent, so I don't listen to his music, but I don't try to ban Ted Nugent or gun nuts from public forums, the forums are public. It's my choice to be offended, so I make it a habit not to go where those things that offend me exist, because I understand that the Motor City Madman has a following. Mostly of gun nuts.

As a fairly large advertiser on ScubaBoard, I would like to see a stricter TOS if one is needed rather than censorship because of an offended party. Censorship is bad for business of any type. Being offended is just a part of life, completely under the control of the offended party.


I agree Frank! If there was a "HOT GUY'S IN SPEEDO'S" thread, I sure as heck wouldn't click on it! (My GOD, what if there was a picture of PETE in a speedo!) I just think that the fact that people were warned as to WHAT was in the thread was the best solution! Now if it was titled as (for lack of a better subject) "Wetsuit question" and you went in and there were "offensive pictures" (regardless of what offends you) and you didn't expect it, THEN I think you have a reason to complain! But you were warned so.....
 
It was a thread with a different name.. HCT =Hot Chick Thread.. lots of soft porn that over a period of time the posters would post more and more sexually suggestive photos. Now they are crying because it was removed.

No more so than a Victoria's Secret catalog.
 
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I agree Frank! If there was a "HOT GUY'S IN SPEEDO'S" thread, I sure as heck wouldn't click on it! (My GOD, what if there was a picture of PETE in a speedo!) I just think that the fact that people were warned as to WHAT was in the thread was the best solution! Now if it was titled as (for lack of a better subject) "Wetsuit question" and you went in and there were "offensive pictures" (regardless of what offends you) and you didn't expect it, THEN I think you have a reason to complain! But you were warned so.....

Way to go Ben! Now my eyes are bleeding and I am offended. It's bad enough seeing Pete in a shortie! Now you put that image in my head. And for what it's worth many of the pics in the Hot Chicks Thread were posted by women who did not feel threatened or degraded by those images. The thread was up for a few years. I clicked on it maybe four or five times. And only when one of my female friends posted a pic I thought would be good (thanks Jax for those!).

I don't get a lot of the censorship crap that goes on here sometimes. I am not offended. If I think I might be guess friggin what? I don't click on it! WHAT A FREAKIN CONCEPT! Next thing you know they'll tell me I don't have to turn on the LifeTime Network! Holy Crap!

God no wonder the world is going to hell.

Nagging pain in my brain - There is no Wookie in a thong. There is no Wookie in a thong. There is no Wookie in a thong. There is no Wookie in a thong. Must keep repeating that.
 
Way to go Ben! Now my eyes are bleeding and I am offended. It's bad enough seeing Pete in a shortie! Now you put that image in my head. And for what it's worth many of the pics in the Hot Chicks Thread were posted by women who did not feel threatened or degraded by those images. The thread was up for a few years. I clicked on it maybe four or five times. And only when one of my female friends posted a pic I thought would be good (thanks Jax for those!).

I don't get a lot of the censorship crap that goes on here sometimes. I am not offended. If I think I might be guess friggin what? I don't click on it! WHAT A FREAKIN CONCEPT! Next thing you know they'll tell me I don't have to turn on the LifeTime Network! Holy Crap!

God no wonder the world is going to hell.

Nagging pain in my brain - There is no Wookie in a thong. There is no Wookie in a thong. There is no Wookie in a thong. There is no Wookie in a thong. Must keep repeating that.



I was waiting for a reaction to that Jim! (I'm surprised that a photo-shopped picture hasn't surfaced yet) (in a "spoiler", please:D)
 
I couldn't find a picture of a wookie in a thong, but I did find a wookie thong.

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https://www.shearwater.com/products/perdix-ai/

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