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Rescue Diver and Red Cross Cert (Cross posted in Basic Scuba)

Discussion in 'Q and A for Scuba Certification Agencies' started by ljwillia, May 24, 2018.

  1. ljwillia

    ljwillia Nassau Grouper

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Richmond, Va.
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    Hello All- Sorry for the cross posting. Wasn't sure which community to post in.

    My husband and I are scheduled for RD in July. I'm trying to find a class to satisfy the EFR primary and secondary requirements. Our local Red Cross offers the following:

    "The Adult First Aid/CPR/AED course incorporates the latest science and teaches students to recognize and care for a variety of first aid emergencies such as burns, cuts, scrapes, sudden illnesses, head, neck, back injuries, heat and cold emergencies and how to respond to breathing and cardiac emergencies for victims about 12 years and older. Successful students will receive a certificate for Adult First Aid/CPR/AED valid for two years."

    Will this satisfy the pre-req? PADI has a class for $150pp. The Red Cross class is $93pp.

    I thought I remembered a thread discussing this some time back but I couldn't find.

    Thanks all for your input!
     
  2. richmonddiver

    richmonddiver Nassau Grouper

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Richmond, VA
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    I took that Red Cross class before my rescue diver course last August. It satisfied PADI'a requirements. You can always double check with PADI or your instructor
     
  3. ljwillia

    ljwillia Nassau Grouper

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Richmond, Va.
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    Thanks @richmonddiver. We're in Richmond also. Which dive shop did you use? Our class is being taught through The Dive Shop on Broad.
     
  4. richmonddiver

    richmonddiver Nassau Grouper

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Richmond, VA
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  5. ljwillia

    ljwillia Nassau Grouper

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Richmond, Va.
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    That's great! I work for VCU. Thanks for your input!
     
  6. shurite7

    shurite7 Dive Shop

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: Missoula, MT
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    [QUOTE="lWill this satisfy the pre-req? PADI has a class for $150pp. The Red Cross class is $93pp.
    Thanks all for your input![/QUOTE]

    Yes, the Red Cross class will meet PADI and NAUI's pre-req. I recommend taking a class in O2 Administration. If you can, find an instructor who will combine CPR/AED/FA & O2. Some instructors offer it through DAN.

    Good luck.
     
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  7. Jean Francois Desfosses

    Jean Francois Desfosses Angel Fish

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Lac Brome
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    ANY agency following ILCOR's guidelines will be accepted.(www.ilcor.org). They set the guidelines and the rest pretty much follows. Reputable ones are Canadian and American Heart & Stroke Foundation, St John Ambulance, Red Cross, etc...

    Agreed on O2 administration.

    Honestly I find it hard to sell PADI's EFR course, when Heart & Strokes, as well as others are pretty much giving it away, for good reasons if you ask my opinion. PADI shoud drop the fees on that one, and consider it a ''donation'' or other tax deductible charity gimmick...

    My 0.02$
     
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  8. yle

    yle Instructor, Scuba

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Southern California
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    PADI doesn't charge any fee for the EFR course; PADI only sells course materials to the dive shop, and the dive shop chooses how much to charge for the course. This is true of all PADI courses.

    I think what you are suggesting is that the local dive shop should drop their fees for the course. But doing so would have to be reasonable, in terms of supporting the business. Many customers that want to take the Rescue Diver course are fine with paying $150 for the EFR course, because of the convenience and added value of having both courses in one location, taught by the same instructor, and with the opportunity for integration of material from the two courses. On the other hand, some people would rather save a few bucks (or 50 or 60) by taking the equivalent of EFR at a separate location with a different instructor. It's good for the customers to have choices.
     
  9. Jean Francois Desfosses

    Jean Francois Desfosses Angel Fish

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Lac Brome
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    Trueish...but if you take into account the EFR costs such as student exams, authorization form to register them, etc, it would be very easy to have the price dropped to be competitive with other agencies, as well as for instructors to offer PADI's course to NON divers, and promote diving courses there as well.
     
  10. yle

    yle Instructor, Scuba

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Southern California
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    Yeah... PADI does control the cost of the materials and registration, and they could lower those costs in an effort to help spread EFR to the masses. And someday pigs could fly.
     

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