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DIR- Generic Santi Flex190?

Discussion in 'DIR' started by Matan, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. Matan

    Matan DIR Practitioner

    # of Dives:
    Location: Israel
    So my old undersuit served with honor... time for a new one.

    below 18C I use BZ200 - amazing.
    above 25C - wetsuit/no suit.
    in between - best solution is Santi Summer, but....

    they don't offer the 4 size changes/ MTM - so no size fits me.
    anyone uses the flex 190? I heard it's not really for cold water and might be good for what I'm looking for.

    Thank you,
  2. mer

    mer Cave Instructor

    The Flex190 is a great option, but it isn't as flexible as name might suggest. If you are hard to fit, getting it custom-adjusted or custom M2M would help. It is probably the best option if you're considering a long deco in this temp range, as it's probably the best out there for passive warmth if wet.

    I used to use/love the DUI 300g powerstretch fleece jumpsuits for this temp range, but they changed materials and I haven't had a chance to try to the new stuff. Not the best if totally flooded.

    Other options out there: Fourth Element Arctics, come in one piece and separate top/bottoms. Kinda fleecy, easy to launder/dry, better than fleece for warmth if flooded, but not as good as thinsulate. Warning: they run small.
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  3. Matan

    Matan DIR Practitioner

    # of Dives:
    Location: Israel
    do you regularly use one?
    my previous undies for these temps was Otter Polar-D.
    however, just like FE, Otter, Santi Summer - they don't do M2M and what can I say I'm "special" :)
    also honestly other brands simply don't match to Santi's attention to small details (IMHO).

    just need to know for someone diving 19C-25C using flex190 for multiple dives a day (rec) or tech1/2 dives etc. and to see if this undy holds well overtime, and if not an overkill (i.e. too hot which will also be bad). also if someone used it while a suit leaked that's good info, and how long it takes to dry it out.

    for example - I had a nice hole in the back of my suit while diving the bz200 - hardly noticed until removed the suit. I was amazed (but happy since I paid a load of money on that undersuit).

  4. johnkendall

    johnkendall Tech Instructor

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: UK
    I use the flex190 for warmer water diving, for me that's anything above about 22degC. It's nice, it's comfortable and it works OK when damp (not as good as thinsulate).


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