then that defeated th point of a swivel, when I turn my head to the right it torques the reg in my mouth in a weird way....
It sounds like your primary 2nd stage hose is a little too long.....(or about 2 1/2 feet too short) but first, about the swivel, what happens is that the LP inflator hose, if it's a little long, tends to rotate the turret so that it pushes the primary 2nd port forward. That basically points the hose more towards your head, with less of a sideways "loop", but it also means you might find a shorter hose more comfortable.
Lots of people don't realize that the turret is not going to move much when the whole set up is connected because you've got three hoses more-or-less keeping it in place. In the dive shop it sure looks nice, (hardly a coincidence) because you've only got one hose attached to the turret. It's really common for a LP inflator hose to be a few inches too long, and that extra length really pushes on the turret.
The good news is, you can consider this to be a message from the dive gods that it's time to try a modified long hose. Get a five foot hose for your primary, a 22" (or 24") hose for your octo, and rout the primary out the end port of the turret, pointing it down and to your right side a bit, so it goes under your arm, across your chest, around behind your head, just like Splitlip described. Put your octo on the short hose, make a bungie necklace for it (there are dozens of websites that show how as well as a very pedantic, multi-page thread arguing the details), and you'll never again have to practice this nutty "reg recovery" bit where your 2nd stage can get lost behind your back while your octo is dangling who-knows-where. You'll find air sharing to be WAY more comfortable, and the push-pull of a short primary hose will be a thing of the past.
The hogarthian technical divers really have this one figured out; the long hose is more practical, comfortable, and undoubtedly safer in an emergency. The only difference (hence 'modifed' long hose) is that you'll use a 5 ft hose, or 5'6" as Splitlip does, instead of the 7' hose used by cave divers. They need the extra length to travel single file while air sharing through tight restricted areas, and they rout the extra hose length around a piece of gear you're not using.
Try this set up, you'll love it, and as a bonus, then you too can feel a little superior to the throngs of uninformed masses still using the PADI mess of loops and plastic thingies.
