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Shearwater and the Poseidon Solid State Sensor

Discussion in 'Shearwater Research' started by JohnnyC, Jan 29, 2019.

  1. JohnnyC

    JohnnyC Divemaster

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    So I sent an e-mail out of idle curiosity to Shearwater asking if they're investigating integrating the Poseidon Solid State Sensor architecture into theirs. I'd like one in my SF2, but I don't want to cut a hole in my loop nor do I want to fork over the money for the Poseidon M28 on top of that. The response from Tim was that they had one and have played with it a little bit, but haven't had anyone show any real interest. I posit that it's because everybody has been quietly waiting for them to do something with it, instead of proactively expressing a desire to have a Shearwater with SSS integration.

    He expressed that they would be more inclined to investigate if the community showed interest. So chime in if you'd like to see Shearwater do some of that wacky engineering stuff they do.

    Everyone seems to think that the SSS is a cool idea, but most people dislike the idea of having to purchase another expensive computer simply to dedicate to running the SSS, and don't like having to purchase another piece of hardware in the CPOD. Alternatively, they don't want to buy a Poseidon IF and WHEN they put it in a unit with the sensor in the head. A Shearwater-based solution where you can use the Canadian hardware and don't need an extra external pod would be a great way to add the potential benefits of the SSS without going full Poseidon.

    From Tim Inglis regarding their product development, "Requests like yours are the very best way to catalyze action on our part. Thanks for taking the time to write to us.

    If you have other suggestions, comments or requests please don't hesitate to share them as they really help us to focus our development efforts."

    My dream list is a new "Predator EXT" but with all of the current functionality of their more modern computers.
     
  2. Caveeagle

    Caveeagle Rebreather Pilot

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    Also “quietly” waiting for some reasonable way to add the SSS to my current rig.
     
  3. michael-fisch

    michael-fisch Manta Ray

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    With the damn sensors costing 650 Euros each under the table, (read that as fallen off the truck without a receipt), the manufacturer being locked into an exclusive contract with Poseidon for all diving uses, the retail cost being 800 Euros a sensor (currently only 915US$), the expected sensor life only being 10 years, still needing a powersupply and interface circuitry, I don't see a big market for it either. Next point, I will never trust my life to any one piece of gear, so either 2 more sensors and a spare powersupply (voting logic) or continuing to use 2 analog sensors in addition the the Poseidon sensor.
    For me it's too much money for too little added safety.

    Michael
     
  4. tbone1004

    tbone1004 ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    @Shearwater and @tcoen hint hint wink wink
    does this count as expressing interest or does it need to be through email?
     
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  5. Schwob

    Schwob Solo Diver

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    I’d want redundant, rock solid SSSensors in my future rebreather when I am ready for it, and I would see them running off Shearwater logic as a plus...
    Mail or just this post, not sure that counts as valid interest coming from a non RB diver to date (how many of those actually do proceed to RBdiving later on...). But I am saying it anyway...
     
  6. michael-fisch

    michael-fisch Manta Ray

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    Dear Schwob, or Schwaeble or Schwäble,

    since as a Schwöb, as in "Geiz ist Geil", you'll never buy one:)
    People from Schwaben are known for pinching each penny until its a lot thinner:)

    Michael
    Sorry, couldn't resist as a "wahl Badener"
     
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  7. Rechno

    Rechno Nassau Grouper

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    Sorry, when talking to a Schwabe, you should refer to yourself as BadenSer ;-)
     
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  8. Schwob

    Schwob Solo Diver

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    HA!
    sorry for the continued thread hijack, but this matters and cannot rest... although most won’t understand...
    @Rechno is right. Poking like that makes you by default into a “Badenser”, that just cannot be helped! :)
    But then, you are right too @michael-fisch (although, Scots may beg to differ): two Swabians simultaneously finding the same penny, did indeed invent the copper wire...
    But then again, we are talking diving here... just by the mere act of being a sort of active diver I sort of continue to violate all holy rules of honorable Swabianess... So, don’t hold your breath (ha!), maybe that RB does find me some day after all... it’s the only way to save on gas after all...

    So, @Shearwater , hear this, this is serious stuff, you are on the hook now... :)
     
  9. Peter Slater

    Peter Slater Solo Diver

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    I'd be interested in shearwater building something to interface it with. Maybe with the same wireless technology as air integrated computers if it can be done reliably?

    I'd think the lack of interest comes from the fact that they are almost impossible to get and that poseidon hasn't published technical information.
     
  10. victorzamora

    victorzamora Solo Diver

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    Definitely put me in the camp of "been silently waiting" for a Shearwater-integrated SSS. Every CCR diver I've talked to about it has said the same thing.
     
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