cougar
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Mossman....point well taken.
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I think $5/tank is still sufficient, there has been a lot of wage deflation in the last decade so it's fine. 10 years ago the average salary for my field was X, now it is X-10% so I should actually reduce that tip to $4/tank but I still pay $5/tank anyway. Better than a lot of people (Europeans etc.) who just don't tip at all (I think there are so many threads about this!)...
Sorry, but I hate tip pooling at land based properties. No the lobby janitor or groundskeeper doesn't usually get tipped but then their work is supposed to be wages only as they are not serving customers directly, which can be said for cooks, busboys, desk clerks, bookkeepers, etc. A tip is a gratuity, not a debt. Yeah, we could all budget 25-50% over rates to offset the fact that Mexican wages aren't as much as typical in the US, then the resorts would pay even less because of tipping, and maybe even keep some of that for management - no I don't want to go there.While I support tipping hotel maids and bellhops, this ignores all the behind-the-scenes people. For instance, the guy who mops or vacuums the floor of the hotel lobby and the groundskeepers who keep the plant life under control are working just as hard and for similar low wages as the hotel maid, but who tips them? I prefer the idea of pooled tips, even though it's more personally satisfying to hand money to the person who directly rendered service to you. Too bad most hotels don't offer such.
I wasn't trying to make it worse, just pointing out the inequities. Tipping is a pain in the butt. It creates more work and stress for the customer, having to figure how much is appropriate, having to carry extra cash, then worrying about whether you're undertipping or overtipping and what the ramifications might be. I've always preferred, and never suffered a detriment in service, either inclusive pooled tips like you get on a cruise ship or a no-tipping atmosphere like you see in Europe (where the tip is included on the bill) or in Asia (no tip at all).Sorry, but I hate tip pooling at land based properties. No the lobby janitor or groundskeeper doesn't usually get tipped but then their work is supposed to be wages only as they are not serving customers directly. A tip is a gratuity, not a debt. Yeah, we could all budget 25-50% over rates to offset the fact that Mexican wages aren't as much as typical in the US, then the resorts would pay even less because of tipping, and maybe even keep some of that for management - no I don't want to go there.
I certainly have mixed feelings about tipping, but will go along with gratuities for services to me. Let's not try to make it worse.
I read your first post as "5 bucks per day per tank is 8 tanks a day for (the) family." Sounded like a nice gratifying on top of rental fees and diving fees.5 bucks per day per tank is 8 tanks a day for my family, or in other words, 40 bucks a day, on top of the 40 bucks a day to rent their bcd and regulators.
so I pay 80 bucks a day just for tips and rental units.
the point of my message was I'm hauling all my gear back to the hotel and most of the discussion on here has been regarding divers walking on the boat with nothing in hand and finding all their gear clean, dry and ready to go.
I would say my tips are at least generous and wondering if maybe I was tipping too much (not that there is such a thing as tipping too much!)...but it does make it $340 a day for us to just dive and after 8 days thats a serious chunk of change not counting the flight and hotel costs.
5 bucks per day per tank is 8 tanks a day for my family, or in other words, 40 bucks a day, on top of the 40 bucks a day to rent their bcd and regulators.
so I pay 80 bucks a day just for tips and rental units.
the point of my message was I'm hauling all my gear back to the hotel and most of the discussion on here has been regarding divers walking on the boat with nothing in hand and finding all their gear clean, dry and ready to go.
I would say my tips are at least generous and wondering if maybe I was tipping too much (not that there is such a thing as tipping too much!)...but it does make it $340 a day for us to just dive and after 8 days thats a serious chunk of change not counting the flight and hotel costs.