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Seanpaul

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Hey, just curious have any of the organizations ever put out a list of precautions to take for respiratory transmitted diseases? I wasn't that active during SARS so don't have the experience. In particular I am thinking about all those rented regulators, particularly at Caribbean resorts where there isn't a 24 break in people using them. Or does the salt water help with the removal of the virus? Anybody know? :confused:
 
Followup question for the Medical Members:

My occasional private students this years have not had any qualms about sharing second stages for OOA drills. But I'm starting a larger open water diver class this weekend, with a mixed group. And our state (Oregon) has now at least one case. And the mass media strories continue unabated.

I'm considering offering students an option: OOA diver accepts the offered second stage, but instead of breathing off it just brings it near his/her mouth and then replaces and clears his/her own second stage.

I'd prefer to offer them some estimates of the disease risks involved, so I'm looking for more information:

Can saliva deliver the virus?

Is mouthpiece sharing underwater (saline pool, fresh-water lake) likely to transmit it?

Is there any way to estimate the risks from sharing mouthpieces for a minute or two?



Any hard info I can use to allay fears would be appreciated.

-Bryan
 
There are less than 200 cases in the USA at this point in time.

Don't take anyone with obvious cold or flu symptoms.

Dip the mouthpieces in a chlorine rinse after use.

Tell them they should be a lot more concerned about TB.

But if they want to reach out for something to really scare the hell out of themselves remind them that there are twice as many deaths from Typhoid last year as there are cases of Swine Flu so far.
 
Since I have the review open in front of me right now, I thought I'd cut and paste it.

Excerpts on the water chapter from the review:

The waterborne route of transmission is traditionally not
considered to be relevant for respiratory viruses.


Scenarios describing the possible pathways avian influenza viruses e and
especially highly pathogenic H5N1 e may adapt to transmission
in humans and cause a new pandemic have been rehearsed
frequently.[119] Transmission pathways and target
tissues play a central role in these scenarios. For instance,
the pathogenesis of H5N1 in mammals raises some new concerns
about the waterborne route; in cats, H5N1 replicates
in multiple extra-respiratory tissues, including cells in the
small intestine.[120] Alternatively, birds like the quail may
act as the ‘‘route modulator’’ that changes the pathway
from fecal-oral to airborne transmission.

In this context of speculative scenarios, the influenza related
risk posed by water resources, water supplies and
sanitation has received some limited attention.[122]

There is apparently no quantitative information on the inactivation
The most recent work on low- and high pathogenic
avian influenza virus inactivation in water investigates
8 subtypes of low-pathogenic avian influenza (LPAI)
viruses and two strains of high-pathogenic H5N1 (Anyang/01
and Mongolia/05).[124] Virus inactivation depends on pathogenicity,
salinity and temperature (see Table 3): survival
decreases with salinity and temperature and LPAI survive
longer than HPAI.

It is unclear how significant a role persistence of influenza
A in water may play in the transmission dynamics
during an epidemic or pandemic.
However, inactivation in
water could affect the long-term epidemiology and evolution
of avian influenza viruses. The fact that avian influenza
viruses can potentially persist several months in water
affects the way the concept of a reservoir for influenza is
defined. A reservoir can be defined Áñas one or more
epidemiologically connected populations or environments
in which the pathogen can be permanently maintained and
from which infection is transmitted to the defined target
populationÃò.[125] Like soil is an important environmental reservoir
of insect-pathogenic viruses,[126] ponds, or sediments
of ponds[127] and lakes could act as environmental reservoirs
for avian influenza viruses.


References
119. Webster RG, Peiris M, Chen H, Guan Y. H5N1 outbreaks and
enzootic influenza. Emerg Infect Dis 2006;12:3e8.
120. Rimmelzwaan GF, van Riel D, Baars M, Bestebroer TM, van
Amerongen G, Fouchier RAM, et al. Influenza A virus (H5N1)
infection cats causes systemic disease with potential novel
routes of virus spread within and between hosts. Am J Pathol
2006;168:176e83.
121. Liu M, Guan Y, Peiris M, He S, Webby RJ, Perez D, et al. The
quest of influenza A viruses for new hosts. Avian Dis 2003;
47:S849e56.
122. World Health Organization. Review of latest available evidence
on risks to human health through potential transmission
of avian influenza (H5N1) through water and sewage.
Geneva: The Organization; 2006. WHO/SDE/WSH/06.1.
123. Zhang G, Shoham D, Gilichinsky D, Davydov S, Castello JD,
Rogers SO. Evidence of influenza A virus RNA in Siberian
lake ice. J Virol 2006;80:12229e35.
124. Brown JD, Swayne DE, Cooper RJ, Burns RE, Stallknecht DE.
Persistence of H5 and H7 avian influenza viruses in water.
Avian Dis 2007;51:285e9.
125. Haydon DT, Cleaveland S, Taylor LH, Laurenson MK. Identifying
reservoirs of infection: a conceptual and practical challenge.
Emerg Infect Dis 2002;8:1468e73.
126. England LS, Holmes SB, Trevors JT. Persistence of viruses and
DNA in soil. World J Microbiol Biotechnol 1998;14:163e9.
127. Lang AS, Kelly A, Runstadler JA. Prevalence and diversity of
avian influenza viruses in environmental reservoirs. J Gen Virol
2008;89:509e19.
128. Smith AW, Skilling DE, Castello JD, Rogers SO. Ice as a reservoir
for pathogenic human viruses: specifically, caliciviruses, influenza
viruses, and enteroviruses. Med Hypotheses 2004;63:
560e6

Virus survivability doesn't necessarily mean someone will get infected. And it only talks about plausible scenarios. Take it with a grain of salt.

I think if you haven't caught avian flu yet (ducks hang out in water ya know), you're odds should be more favourable with swine flu.

I'd like to hear comment from a medical mod since I am curious as well.

ninja edit: bold in the quote is from me.
 
Some of the posts here are really funny.

Dip your regulator second stage in a cup of mouthwash for a few minutes. :thumb:
 
40,000 people die in the USA from Influenza related illness EVERY YEAR. Swine flu is getting a lot of attention because the great Flu Pandemic of 1917-1918 was a swine flue variant. So far this novel variant has proven to be rather self limiting with few related deaths. I see no reason to do anything different at this point with students.
 
I did a bit of searching, and I couldn't find anything specifically addressing the disinfection of oral appliances in the face of influenza virus. (In hospitals, things that go in the mouth are either disposable, or sterilized between uses.) However, the CDC recommends the disinfection of environmental surfaces with standard disinfectants, or failing that, with a dilute bleach solution, and they recommend a contact time of three to five minutes. So I would say that if you soak your mouthpieces in some type of disinfectant for that length of time, you could assure your students that they are safe.

Things like scuba mouthpieces are subject to one of the best ways of reducing infection risk, anyway, and that's dilution. I do not know what the infectious aliquot of influenza virus is, but I would suspect that after a regulator has been swished around in the water for even a couple of minutes, the necessary number is no longer there.

And yes, since influenza is spread by respiratory droplets, the virus will be present in oropharyngeal secretions (mucus rather than saliva, but they are both present in the mouth).
 
Comparing apples to young watermelons is not helpful, but swimming pool chlorine and mouthwash for regs between dives should suffice.
 
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