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Sam Miller III

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Viena (Vienna) Illinois -

I would like to make contact with divers in an around Viena and Cypress Illinois

My grand father settled in the area between Viena and Cypress over 150 years ago. Although all the descendants have either passed away or moved away, we the heirs, still property and interest in that area.

I will be visiting the mid west in October. If the weather and my schedule permits I would like to visit the old homestead and possibly meet some of the local diving enthusiasts.

Should you like additional information about me please check my profile on SCUBA Board; should you wish to contact me please post a PM and I will respond

Sam Miller
 
WOW...Sam that's quite the profile!!! You're NAUI # 27? I am NAUI # 41196!!!! :) I would dive with you. Let me know when your coming and maybe we'll meet up!

LA County....The old school....I love it!
 
I have been away for a while attending to other interest and have not monitored this thread

I was anticipating a response but it is apparent that there are no divers from the Viena and Cypress area or there are divers from that area but they do not monitor this board. I suspect the later.

Steve C,
I have no interest in Mermet Springs

Blu Diver--My profile is nothing but a demonstration of longevity and being at the right place at the right time with the right equipment....

I note that you are NAUI--

Several months ago my old diving buddy Harry Vetter, NAUI instructor #4 visited for several days. He indicated that he had contacted NAUI and the clerk on the telephone did not or could not comprehend that he was #4 and could or would not issue him a replacement NAUI Instructor's card.

After he departed I contacted NAUI HQ who was delighted that he was still kicking, In the process they discovered that we were the two oldest living NAUI instructors- My NAUI number is 27, so they made special one (two?) of a kind NAUI instructors cards for us.

We are also equally low numbered LA County Underwater instructors, Harry is around 5 or 6 and I am 11--In those days the acronym SCUBA was not in common usage so we were and are proudly known as "Underwater Instructors."

So it goes with longevity,

Stay wet!

Sam Miller, 111
 
That's great Sam! It's nice to know that someone at NAUI HQ finally realized who you guys were and issued you special cards. They should honor you two by writing a column in Sources magazine. I think many divers would be eager to here from you and your thoughts on LA County and NAUI.

Safe Diving!
 
Blu Diver

It is very apparent after a month of displaying the post that here are no divers in Viena or they do not read this board.

I will leave you with a post that I made to another board about Harry's visit and our many adventures of yesteryear..

"A little reminiscences --Harry Vetter

A friend for 60 years, diving buddy for many of those years.

Let me tell you about Harry Vetter....

Pioneer LA county Underwater Instructor ( ever wonder why LA Co types are referred to as "Underwater Instructors" rather than SCUBA instructors? The term SCUBA was not in common usage in 1954 when LA Co was established) As I recall Harry's LA Co number is 5--I am number 11..

Harry also has the dubious distinction of being the last of the original instructors who taught the very first NAUI Instructor's course at Houston in August 1960, all the rest are now diving on the big reef in the sky; Dr. Al Tillman, NAUI #1 Al Jones #2, Dr. Andy Rechnitzer #3 are gone- all gone. Only Harry Vetter NAUI #4 remains.

During his recent two day visit from his home in Oregon Harry indicated he had contacted NAUI HQ and chatted with a clerk about a replacement card. The clerk could not comprehend that his instructor number was 4 and could not locate his records, after all, almost a half a century had passed since 1960.

A few days after his departure I contacted Cathy Cush at NAUI. She was unaware that Harry had contacted them or that he was still alive. She was very grateful for the historical link to the past. A fast review of NAUI records indicated Harry was the "Oldest Living NAUI instructor" and I as NAUI instructor #27 was "one of the oldest living instructors." A few days ago Harry and I received a very special one of a kind NAUI instructor card in the mail. According to a note it was the first two to be issued

Lets place Harry's distinction of NAUI Instructor #4 in proper prospective...1960 was 49 years ago, most of you were not alive or if you were you were probably too young to be interested in recreational diving.

Harry's visit produced a non stop 24X7 conversation of days, events and people of the past.

The many dives, summer and winter prior to the wet suit with only long underwear and GI sweaters for thermal protection, Churchill fins for propulsion, home made snorkels fashioned from a WW 11 gas mask hose and a piece of aquarium hose, the home made masks fashioned from a piece of fire hose ( see www portagequarry.com ; Legends of diving "The Mask") (aLso see my picture painted by John Steel in the SDM anniversary issue of SDM- Story by Eric Hanauer)

The many trips deep into Baja for clear water teaming with game; the many fish and huge lobsters....

The time we came around a corner on the "old road" near what is known now as "La Mission" and were stopped by a huge bond fire in the middle of the road by what we thought were well armed Mexican bandits, but lucky for us they were military searching for escapees from the Ensenada jail.

The LA county and later NAUI classes we taught and the laughs we had...the 38 foot diving charter boat "Say when" (Say when are we getting there?, Say when will it stop rocking? Say when will we get back to San Pedro?)... the student who fastened his wet suit beaver tail over the railing and did a back entry and was suspended up side down....The arrogant self impressed gymnast who rather doing a "giant stride entry" attempted a hand stand entry in full gear, but for what ever reason did not let go and came crashing down on the side of the boat. Certainly got the attention of all on board and gave us cause for alarm.

The many locations we were the first to dive up and down the Baja and California coast, and the famous Farnsworth banks.

I was the President of the Sea Sabres dive club in 1959-60. The previous President Bob Ruethford, (see Scuba Diving and Recreation Center in Northwest Ohio - Portage Quarry Sea Sabres signaling system) who had founded the Aquatic Center in Newport Beach, had seen hunks of purple coral (allopura California) brought in by commercial abalone divers. Over a few drinks Bob discovered they found it at a place called Farnsworth banks. Selected member of the Sea Sabres and the scientific community at Kirkoff marine institute in Corona Del Mar consequently made a number of trips to the banks on the private boat called the "Aqua Duck."

Bob, a true diving pioneer who is famous for many first in diving (see www.legendsof diving: Sea sabres signaling system) who relished publicity,published an article in Skin Diver magazine in June 1960 "California divers discover Rare purple coral' which was fine but his topside pictures clearly showed Ben Weston Point in the background. That same month Jake Jacobs the then head diver at Marine Land of the Pacific published "Marine land diver" (--Dodd, Meade & company NYC, LCC 60-9655 --I have a pre-issue inscribed copy) in which Jake also discusses the purple coral of Farnsworth -- So the secret of Farnsworth was out.

As the president of the then undisputed most active dive club in all of SoCal and possibly the US I made the decision to dive " Farnsworth banks". I contacted the dive boat captains at that time, all refused to charter to Farnsworth as if it was some foreign or strange exotic place. Finally Dick Peters, who owned the newest dive charter boat of the fleet, the 42 foot "Out Rider " agreed to a charter at $7.00 per person but with the stipulation "only in the winter when there is no boats fishing there and the water will be calm" (FYI the Outrider sunk about 1967 when returning from a trip to Catalina)

In early December 1960 we loaded the boat. It had no compressor - as many as three- four or even five tanks per person was stashed all over the boat. The water was like glass and the trip over and back was like riding on silk.

Using Ben Weston Point as a reference and relying on the recently developed depth finder Captain Peters made numerous runs in all directions across the banks trying to locate a pinnacle.

Finally a suitable pinnacle was located and the anchor was dropped--right in the middle of a school of welcoming sharks. "The are only blues, lets dive! " some one shouted. With only a nano second of hesitation on that bright sunny day in December 1960, Ed Mossbrooke (who now lives in Fountain Valley, California) became the first recreational diver to dive the Banks from a charter boat, immediately followed by the rest of the divers.

I was using the then very popular "Orange County twin 44s." Harry was using surplus USN single aluminum 90s, the others were using every thing from a single 70 to twin 72s. All breathed from a variety of double hose regulators, most used the recently introduced wet suits which were home made, although the SPG had been introduced about five years previous it was considered unreliable and was seldom used, and of course floatation devices were still fifteen years in the future. At that time we were diving with the state of the art equipment but today we would be considered "antique, retro or old school."

It was a different world at that time with no thought for the future or the conservation of the precious natural resources. We came for hunks of the famous purple coral of Farnsworth banks and we harvested hunks of purple coral. In addition most harvested a limit of ten scallops, and the then limit of ten bugs, with Harry getting the largest at 13+ pounds. I some how in my four dives that day managed also to spear a rather large fish, which because we were not equipped for large fish took some doing to horse it on the boat.

All too soon it was all over, the divers began returning to the Outrider, storing their equipment, game and hunks of purple coral. All that is but, Norma lee Smith who decided to decompress on the bow line and attracted every curious and hopefully not hungry shark from miles around investigate this morsel. Norma's only defense was to exhale copious amount of rapidly diminishing supply of air. She slowly with great caution made her way to the stern of the boat where she rapidly ascended thrust out her hands and was unceremoniously but also rapidly pulled over the gunnel onto the deck of the Outrider...So ended the first recreational dive trip to Farnsworth.


So many stories... So litle time to document them and share them,"

Enjoy every minute of your future dives, SDM
 
I do have one bit of advice. Going to Viena and bad mouthing Mermet Springs, would be like going into a biker bar and bad mouthing Harley :)

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Your advise is noted and is accepted,

I recall that I wanted to make contact with local Viena divers; My comment regarding Mermet Springs..was to the effect that had no interest in it, and I still don't. It is simply not a destination for me

Every visit to the area I first the graves of my great grand mother, my grand parents, my parents and numerous relatives at the local cemetery. Then to visit the remaining relatives who live in the general area and attend to the various family business interests.

I generally top off the visit to Throgmortons drug store for several hours every morning reuniting with the locals and swapping stories of distant past and the immediate present, I have the heritage and credentials to be accepted, you will never be accepted

Therefore, a word of advise to you from a well entrenched 4th generation former Viena resident...even in this modern tolerant society hill billies do not take kindly to big city flat landers and you apparently fit that description, So walk softy, speak softly, spend your money, dive and leave,

But once again I thank your for what I assume was your well intended advise as mine is. Have a great day.
 
Wow, what an attitude. I respect the "longevity", but you come into our house (Midwest) and start putting things down - Stay in California.

Snagel

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Mr S. Nagel

I just returned from two weeks in South Bend Indiana were I attended Notre Dame foot ball games. While visiting Indiana I was lathered rather lavishly with the well known Hoosier hospitality.

So sad that you as a self appointed representative of the "show me" state of Missouri, the birth place of my great grandparents and grand parents, do not have the same attitude as the Hoosiers

It is recognized that there are people with in this wonderful world who are nothing, will be nothing, and contribute nothing to the betterment of mankind and their appointed avocation; it is suspected that you certainly adhere to that mold.

It is 80 degrees, with a ever so slight westerly breeze, the sun is shining, the ocean is flat and clear and I am off to the beckoning Pacific....I just do not have time for vitriolic people like you, never the less I wish you well and welcome you to visit California.

This matter is closed.
 
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