When are we gonna learn?

I remember reading about this when it happened, but didn't realize the guy was so inexperienced. Seriously ... taking a guy with a total of 14 dives ... particularly since those were spread out over a 5 year period ... to this particular dive site is just asking for something bad to happen. The dive shop recently closed its doors, which is a shame because I liked those people and they were in a very convenient place. But really ... you have to know when to say "no, you're not qualified for this dive site". And in this case, that should've been a very easy call to make ....

Family of diver who died at Race Rocks seeks inquiry into recreational industry

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

Besides hiring a DM is there any public record of how he presented his experience level, or lack of?
Aside from AOW, I've never been asked to show my log book, the most rigorous 'questioning' I've experienced is on waiver forms; how many dives, when was my most recent dive, and how deep (Truk), cold water dive experience (west coast). None of this has ever been actively questioned.

 

So should a guy with 14 dives - spread over 5 years know that the dive might be more advanced than he can handle and he has no business making the dive? Is there no personal responsibility?

Or should all diving be completely in the hands of the OP?

 

We've had more deaths at the underwater park in Avalon, Catalina Island than anywhere in California. There are steps so that divers can walk down to the water and ropes and buoys to keep boats out. It is generally as benign as diving gets. It would be impossible to judge whether any of the deceased was experienced enough to dive there.

Perhaps the dive shop should have notified anyone signing up as to the possible dangers at Race Rocks if they hadn't already, but the diver himself bears some personal responsibility. The Drifting Dan case had similarities. A diver with little experience signed up for a trip with possible current and could have paid the ultimate price for it. Instead he blamed everyone else and never accepted any personal responsibility.

 

I just read the article and it leaves so many questions but the first two that come to mind is:

1. did the shop review his dive log and see that he didn't have the experience to dive in such a potentially treacherous spot with strong currents?

2. If the DM was sharing air via his regulator, how did Mr. Chu get pulled under? I have very little experience as many know here but when sharing air I was taught to lock arms, grab the BCD or some other form of holding onto your buddy. Could the DM not have cut him out of the kelp?

There is a lot missing and I would love to learn more about this as I find these accident reports to be a great learning tool in risk management.

 

Police officer too. One would have hoped he had a better personal sense of risk management. OTOH, he was young, in a risky field, and probably pretty confident of his inherent capabilities to overcome adversity.

I've learned over time to just tell people "no". It's a difficult call.....sometimes.....to know when a person is ready to step up to a more rigorous dive. People's talent and experience varies SO much. Enthusiast young men tend to be overconfident in their abilities. Those same guys often don't have a clue.

 

Probably preaching to the choir; 14 dives doesn't equal advanced; he bears some responsibility for himself but the dive industry doesn't help itself by lowering the bar so much.

 

So what certification allows you to dive a current? What skill did the DM use to not get swept away? What agency are you guys talking about because I got my AOW after 7 dives through padi. It is just another class with 5 different dives to try and get people interested in diving and expand to 100ft.
There is no magic number that says you are a proficient diver since all divers are different. what one learns in one dive another takes 10 dives to learn. Some swim like a fish and some can only dog paddle there are too many variables which is why it is a certification. Certification means you have shown you can dive according to a set guidelines under controlled conditions after that it is up to individuals to increase their skills.