BugHunterNY
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You mean like DRIS? That kind of service might be too much to hope for...
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The wait is over: Suunto Eon Steel is here
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You mean like DRIS? That kind of service might be too much to hope for...
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Or like me maybe.
I have a Suunto Zoop that I bought used for $125 which has served me well for my 75 logged recreational dives. We bought the wife a fancy Cobra 3 for around $700 (IIRC) and she's locked it out twice accidentally putting it in guage mode while attempting to change Nitrox mix settings.
Long story short - as a rec diver, I don't see the need for anything more than a Zoop-level computer and when I eventually work up to tech, then I'll spend the money on pro gear (Petrel) and not fancy toys (Suunto Eon).
Also - I guess I've spent too much time reading about DIR and Hogarthian diving during my "extended surface intervals" because there's really no way anybody's gonna convince me to go with wireless AI over my trusty, always-at-hand SPG. My LDS pushes the fancy Suuntos with wireless AI and I have to "nope" those poor guys every time.
Long story short - as a rec diver, I don't see the need for anything more than a Zoop-level computer and when I eventually work up to tech, then I'll spend the money on pro gear (Petrel) and not fancy toys (Suunto Eon).
Also - I guess I've spent too much time reading about DIR and Hogarthian diving during my "extended surface intervals" because there's really no way anybody's gonna convince me to go with wireless AI over my trusty, always-at-hand SPG. My LDS pushes the fancy Suuntos with wireless AI and I have to "nope" those poor guys every time.
BugHunterNY
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I don't know much about your operation either... Will PM you, need some more gear as it happens (seems that's always the case...)
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I tested one of the early units and liked it a lot. It is a very good recreational computer and serves as a very nice alternative for people that might be interested in the D9s. I however won't buy the current release for Technical diving as it locked me out on one of my final Deco stops. I compared the deco algorithm to that of my old trusty horse shoe VR set to ZHL-16B and it tracked a very similar profile until it punished me for a minor transgression. Luckily my old VR got me out safely.
Another issue I experienced was that I could not alter or add gasses while under water. This is a big deal for me as I've had to rely on somebody else's deco gas once before.
Page 7 of the Eon manual clearly states that this unit is for recreational and not professional (technical) diving and that you should not use it for planned deco diving or exceed 40 metres (130 ft).
I am happy with the unit as long as the marketing department at Suunto stays true to page 7 of their manual and market only to recreational divers. Tech Divers should buy more mission/purpose specific equipment.
The marketing guys at Suunto are already posting videos on their website showing divers in drysuits and twinsets using Eons in caves. I have a problem with that. (False advertising). They should rather show it of on shallow coral reefs with sport divers in wetsuits and BC jackets.
Another issue I experienced was that I could not alter or add gasses while under water. This is a big deal for me as I've had to rely on somebody else's deco gas once before.
Page 7 of the Eon manual clearly states that this unit is for recreational and not professional (technical) diving and that you should not use it for planned deco diving or exceed 40 metres (130 ft).
I am happy with the unit as long as the marketing department at Suunto stays true to page 7 of their manual and market only to recreational divers. Tech Divers should buy more mission/purpose specific equipment.
The marketing guys at Suunto are already posting videos on their website showing divers in drysuits and twinsets using Eons in caves. I have a problem with that. (False advertising). They should rather show it of on shallow coral reefs with sport divers in wetsuits and BC jackets.
DuboisP
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how to use 8 (or more ?) mixes at 40m / 130 feet ?
one mix every 5m ?
I've gotten the impression that there are more and more recreational computers being advertised as capable of handling greater and greater numbers of mixes for no reason other than as a marketing ploy directed to divers who don't know better.
What most people don't realize is that suunto uses a modified rgbm and deliberately design their computers to be recreational.
Weinke RGBM is admittedly more conservative with no deco times, however will get you out of the water faster than Vpm or any haldanian model out there when diving deco with very few exceptions. Suunto missed the mark in utilizing the RGBM model, and continues to do so. Liquivision has recently enabled RGBM as an option in their computers and I am interested to see if it is a true Weinke model(which it should be) or a bastardized model like suunto uses.
Weinke RGBM is admittedly more conservative with no deco times, however will get you out of the water faster than Vpm or any haldanian model out there when diving deco with very few exceptions. Suunto missed the mark in utilizing the RGBM model, and continues to do so. Liquivision has recently enabled RGBM as an option in their computers and I am interested to see if it is a true Weinke model(which it should be) or a bastardized model like suunto uses.
I'm not sure Professional means Technical! - and it doesn't state technical on page 7
A working Divemaster would be classified as a professional diver and I don't believe they are recommending Divemasters not to use the computer (probably not recommending that seal team six start using it though)
UK Open Water dives can be done in a Drysuit - would't put these guys into the "professional" bucket either
I would say the manual could be clearer
"Dives with required decompression stops are not recommended" - Fine, can't disagree that there is a higher risk of DCI, nothing wrong with that. It's not saying don't do it, just doesn't recommend it.
Page 41 has an example mixed gas dive to 55m using 18/45 and 50/10. Does that count as technical? I think they are saying you had better be doing it for fun. Not recreation is not the same as technical, and not technical is not the same as recreational. Most technical dives by people I know are for fun, ie recreational.
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