Cozumel drift diving

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I agree, you will enjoy the dives more with a private DM. I had a bad experience with Sand Dollar when staying at the Reef Club years ago and would never dive with them. I don't know if they turned things around but frankly I don't care.

I would try to book with Dive with Martin or Tres Pelicanos or any other reputable shop.
 
I really don't mean to be scaring you about Cozumel diving! It really is fantastic, but it takes a bit more attentiveness to your depth gauge, your air gauge, and your DM. They really should not be dropping you on a reef with screaming current. Most cruise ship divers have less experience, so they are more work for the DM anyhow. Last thing they want to do is stress out divers and DMs.

here is a little sample of Cozumel diving.... NOT cruise ship diving, this is from one of our week long vacations to Cozumel. We dive there regularly.
the shallow reef, with tons of fish, is Paradise Reef. It is 30-40' deep and the closest reef to the cruise ship docks. It is almost always going to be the second dive for cruise ship divers. Can have a little current, but it is shallow enough not to be a problem as long as you stay with the DM. There may be 3-5 other dive groups on the same reef (it is popular second dive for everyone) so make sure you don't start following the wrong DM.


How is your video so clear? Are you using a red filter? Any tips for great vids/pics? =)
 
How is your video so clear? Are you using a red filter? Any tips for great vids/pics? =)
Yes, red filter and white balance in post editing. I have been shooting underwater video for 10+ years, it is all a learning process.
 
QUOTE="robint, post: 7629672, member: 13748"]Yes, red filter and white balance in post editing. I have been shooting underwater video for 10+ years, it is all a learning process.[/QUOTE]

Yes, red filter and white balance in post editing. I have been shooting underwater video for 10+ years, it is all a learning process.

Do you mean red filter, wb and you edit as well? Do you suggest a red filter underwater or just edit the photo after? I'm doing the stingray city dive in GC, it's only 12ft, do you think a red filter is needed? Should I set my camera to underwater mode? I've done this but my photos of moving fish are blurry.
 
Yes, red filter and editing software both. My current video rig is a GoPro but it is the 3rd in my series of camcorders, the first two were large and hard to travel with and lug around. These new mini camcorders do an okay job, but the quality is not a good overall as the big ones.
As far as blurry photos, that is part the quality of the camera you are using, and part skill. Some cameras are not good for low light, which is all underwater photo and video, whether you realize it or not.
 
I keep getting different responses. I'm going to be in Cozumel in two weeks and am a beginner. I've heard from other new divers that have gone as well as my trainer that drift diving is very easy and relaxing for new divers but also someone on here said they don't recommend it for new divers. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you!
Hello,
I have never be on a cruise so I cannot comment this part but I finished my open water 2 weeks ago in Cozumel. So my first open water dive was a drift dive as the 15 others following :)
It took me some adjustments the first time around but this is actually pretty relaxing as you practically don't have to kick, which is good for your air consumption. When you feel you need to control your speed, just get closer to the reef and the currant nearly disappears. The boat will wait for you at the other end of the reef so you don't have to get back, so all you have to do is control your buoyancy and be amazed with the marine life! Really nice! :)
 
Probably too late for the OP, but my husband and I are also beginners and just got off a cruise ship where we dove in Cozumel and Grand Cayman. Both were amazing diving. I would not skip either. We also dove in Key Largo before boarding the ship.

Having said that, trying to book dive trips off a cruise ship was a pain in the ass. So many rejections! :banghead: Even where the dive op was willing to accommodate cruise ship divers, many of them are on a schedule and are just not able to accommodate cruise ship schedules. In the end, we did end up finding someone to take us in both locations and I highly recommend them.

Cozumel - We dove with Tres Pelicanos. They have a regularly scheduled afternoon dive that leaves at 1:30pm, which fit into our ship's scheduled time in port (11am-7pm). Our ship docked at Punta Langosta pier and we just walked off the ship and to their shop, which was very close by (5-7 min), and from there they drove us to the marina. After the dive, they dropped us off in front of the pier and we just walked back on the ship. Easy peasy in terms of logistics. We also hired a private DM for a very reasonable cost and it was so worth it! It took the stress out of the dive for us immeasurably. They have fast boats and our DM was great! We dove at Palancar Gardens (beautiful coral formations, lots of large lobsters, gigantic turtles...just amazing) and Punta Tunich (drift diving, less coral formations but plenty of fish). We maxed out at 75 feet at Palancar Gardens and 60 feet at Punta Tunich.

A few thoughts about drift diving and current in general...some say it is difficult for beginners, others say it's the easiest diving ever. From the point of view of a beginner, it is a little scary...the current is strong enough to sweep you past your DM and you need to swim backwards HARD to get back to him! So your finning technique needs to be better than bicycle kicks and you need pretty strong legs and be relatively fit if you ever end up in a situation where you need to swim against the current. I can imagine some beginners might begin to panic if they aren't able to control where they are going. My husband and I were "ok" with it, but it does take getting used to. Our DM was strong enough to hold us both in one place so we could look at something in a crevice without floating off!

Grand Cayman - We dove with Off the Wall Divers. They were willing to change their schedule a bit to accommodate our ship's schedule. Our ship was in port from 8am-4pm. We were able to book the first tender as soon as we got on the ship but I guess this would depend on the ship. They sent someone to pick us up 5 minutes from the pier - we were at the North Pier. They drove us to the dive shop/dock, where we boarded the boat and dove at In Between and USS Kittiwake. The In Between was a wall and beautiful. Kittiwake was much larger than I expected. Both were very enjoyable dives. We maxed out at 100 feet on the wall and 60 feet at Kittiwake. The water conditions in Cayman were so calm and visibility was so good that the 100 feet wall dive was much easier and much less scary than the 30 feet dives we did at Key Largo just a few days earlier. I really loved the easiness of diving with this operation. You sit at the back of their boat, they literally put on the bcd for you, help you clip it up, put on your weight belt for you and you just stand up and giant stride in. No walking around on the boat all geared up risking falls. After the dives, they drive you back to the pick-up point.
 
Probably too late for the OP, but my husband and I are also beginners and just got off a cruise ship where we dove in Cozumel and Grand Cayman. Both were amazing diving. I would not skip either. We also dove in Key Largo before boarding the ship.

Having said that, trying to book dive trips off a cruise ship was a pain in the ass. So many rejections! :banghead: Even where the dive op was willing to accommodate cruise ship divers, many of them are on a schedule and are just not able to accommodate cruise ship schedules. In the end, we did end up finding someone to take us in both locations and I highly recommend them.

Cozumel - We dove with Tres Pelicanos. They have a regularly scheduled afternoon dive that leaves at 1:30pm, which fit into our ship's scheduled time in port (11am-7pm). Our ship docked at Punta Langosta pier and we just walked off the ship and to their shop, which was very close by (5-7 min), and from there they drove us to the marina. After the dive, they dropped us off in front of the pier and we just walked back on the ship. Easy peasy in terms of logistics. We also hired a private DM for a very reasonable cost and it was so worth it! It took the stress out of the dive for us immeasurably. They have fast boats and our DM was great! We dove at Palancar Gardens (beautiful coral formations, lots of large lobsters, gigantic turtles...just amazing) and Punta Tunich (drift diving, less coral formations but plenty of fish). We maxed out at 75 feet at Palancar Gardens and 60 feet at Punta Tunich.

A few thoughts about drift diving and current in general...some say it is difficult for beginners, others say it's the easiest diving ever. From the point of view of a beginner, it is a little scary...the current is strong enough to sweep you past your DM and you need to swim backwards HARD to get back to him! So your finning technique needs to be better than bicycle kicks and you need pretty strong legs and be relatively fit if you ever end up in a situation where you need to swim against the current. I can imagine some beginners might begin to panic if they aren't able to control where they are going. My husband and I were "ok" with it, but it does take getting used to. Our DM was strong enough to hold us both in one place so we could look at something in a crevice without floating off!

Grand Cayman - We dove with Off the Wall Divers. They were willing to change their schedule a bit to accommodate our ship's schedule. Our ship was in port from 8am-4pm. We were able to book the first tender as soon as we got on the ship but I guess this would depend on the ship. They sent someone to pick us up 5 minutes from the pier - we were at the North Pier. They drove us to the dive shop/dock, where we boarded the boat and dove at In Between and USS Kittiwake. The In Between was a wall and beautiful. Kittiwake was much larger than I expected. Both were very enjoyable dives. We maxed out at 100 feet on the wall and 60 feet at Kittiwake. The water conditions in Cayman were so calm and visibility was so good that the 100 feet wall dive was much easier and much less scary than the 30 feet dives we did at Key Largo just a few days earlier. I really loved the easiness of diving with this operation. You sit at the back of their boat, they literally put on the bcd for you, help you clip it up, put on your weight belt for you and you just stand up and giant stride in. No walking around on the boat all geared up risking falls. After the dives, they drive you back to the pick-up point.
Great trip report for a fellow newbie, thanks! :) I felt like I was on those dives with you.:D My concern about drift diving in Cozumel has been will I get down fast enough? I descend vewy vewy slowly due to past experiences of ear pain during two different Discover Scuba outings. So, I too might hire a DM or instructor for the first couple of outings. Or, better yet (for me) take a drift diving course...

I understand why the 100 foot wall dive on Grand Cayman could feel "easier" and "less scary" than the 30 foot dive (with chop and/or current?) off Key Largo. But, max depth of 100 feet? You are more brave than I am and presumably have much more training and experience than I do. :cool:

The valet experience with the GC outfit sounds great to me. Although I am athletic and physically strong, especially given my tiny size, my back gave out after repeated days of tanks + 22lbs lead, then 20lbs, finally 18lbs. :eek::confused::D I'm doing additional, new strengthening work to try to prepare for my next dives.

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Thanks, WrmBluH2O!

As a beginner, I'm all for hiring private DMs and/or doing courses. The fact that an instructor is there to assist calms my nerves down so much. We learned this lesson after a pretty disastrous first dive in Tobermory, Canada, after we thought it was "ok" to do it ourselves. It wasn't, and we won't do it ourselves again in the near future.

After diving in Key Largo for the very first time, we have now learned that diving in Key Largo in the winter time is a crap shoot. There was chop and current, strong enough that after 2 days of diving, my feet hurt really bad because I was finning so hard. Visibility was poor and the term used by the crew to describe it was "milky". I lost sight of my private DM on several occasions but for his white fin tips.

Being a beginner diver is like having my eyes opened to a different world...so many things to learn and so many mistakes to make. I still have to work on my descending, weighting and buoyancy, holding a safety stop without popping to the surface. And I can't figure out why my right ear won't equalize between 40 and 60 feet without pain, but as soon as I'm deeper than 60, it equalizes! The fun journey continues!
 
If you haven't booked yet, we cruised with carnival for my wife and daughters first dives after certification. Dive With Martin is next to the international pier. It will take longer to get off the boat than it will take to DWM. We looked at Sandollar but decided against it after numerous bad reports found online. You want to dive with an operator that uses "6 pack" boats so you are diving with no more than 5 other divers. A "cattle boat" with 20 or more divers would just suck. Too long to drop in, too long to get back in, and lots of wasted time. We chartered our own boat since there were 4 of us and the boat was waiting for us and we were signed in and on the way within 10 minutes.

There is more than enough time to get in a 2 tank dive, surface interval, and a couple hours shopping before you have to be back on board. Most dive ops will also have "cruise divers" trips as well.

Do not be concerned about the drift diving, first, it's really easy, literally no work what so ever. Second, the DM's we have met WILL take care of you. If you even have remotely acceptable buoyancy skills you will be fine. No dive operator recommended on this forum will put you in a dive beyond your level and the dive masters will work with you if your having trouble. Be up front that these will be your first dives. A private DM for a 2 tank dive usually runs $50. If you are concerned...hire one...but I doubt it is needed.

Once you get off the boat, there will be cabs everywhere that can take you to any other operator, or the Calletta Marina (or new Marina next to Calletta) where lots of dive ops run from. I stayed away from the cruise ship operators for a reason, Dive With Martin was convenient and was an awesome experience. We have dove with Blue Magic and loved every minute. Aldora has lots of boats, uses steel tanks for longer dives, and is one of the more popular operators as well. Christy with Blue XTSea is a supporter of this site (so is Dave with Aldora) and Tres Pelicanos has lots of loyal divers as well.

Email several, ask lots of questions, and go on an incredible dive.

PM me if you have any specific questions, I'll be happy to help. Enjoy the Molten Lava Cake on board.

Jay
 
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