Software Suggestions

[JohnnyC]

To be honest, I'm willing to bet the denigration of GF is only out of spite because the author of said program is so entrenched in his proven-faulty position that he'll do anything to try and dig himself out of the hole. It's a model anyway, personal physiology will always be different, so it's an approximation at best.

As evidenced by the functionality and finish of the program, he is as good a programmer as he is bad a decompression scientist.

In that regard, I will keep my eyes open for another program, but I'm not going to jump ship until something is as good or better.

 

[kensuf]

@boulderjohn , I've been struggling with the same thing. My problem is I want something on Android and Mac, as those are my platforms of choice.

My iOS friends love Baltic. My Winders friends love Decoplanner. Neither run on my hardware.

I've heard rumors that there may be a new version of a dive planning tool that will run on Winders, OS-X, iOS and Android. My fingers are crossed.

 

[PfcAJ]

@boulderjohn , I've been struggling with the same thing. My problem is I want something on Android and Mac, as those are my platforms of choice.

My iOS friends love Baltic. My Winders friends love Decoplanner. Neither run on my hardware.

I've heard rumors that there may be a new version of a dive planning tool that will run on Winders, OS-X, iOS and Android. My fingers are crossed.

Getting decoplanner to work with OS-X was a headache.

 

[shoredivr]

Thanks CDub I will investigate Baltic.

 

[stuartv]

I use Multi-Deco on Windows and MacOS, and PastoDeco Pro on Android. They generally agree (within 1 minute or so).

As far as comments from the author of M-D go, it is my understanding (could be totally wrong), that he wrote M-D, but he did not write the actual libraries that M-D uses to do the Buhlmann calculations. If that is correct, then I would take his comments as what they are - comments about someone else's programming. It's not the author running down his own code.

Is there a good planning tool for Linux (which I am migrating myself to)? The Multi-Deco site lists it as an option, but there's no download link and the author's comments in their forum is that they're aren't going to do a Linux version (at least, not any time soon).

 

[rhwestfall]

My biggest concern is that I've heard M-D is either being shut down completely, in favor of maintaining V-Planner, or the Buhlmann support in M-D is going away.

Where has this been officially stated or rumored publicly?

 

[stuartv]

Where has this been officially stated or rumored publicly?

Nowhere that I know of. A friend who looked at and rejected using Multi-Deco told me that. I assumed it was somewhat common knowledge. To avoid spreading unfounded rumors, I will delete my comment.

 

[rhwestfall]

so, if your PDC (lets say a Petrel) matches your deco schedule generated by the currently disfavored programs (MultiDeco/VPlanner), will you then toss it too?

Perplexing.....

 

[fsardone]

As I said in a previous (defunct) thread I think it is a good piece of software.
The problem is the attitude of the programmer that went down in a landslide and casts doubts on where the limit is ...
As better qualified people said I lost trust. And since you need to trust the results ... to dive with peace of mind I will run the software for planning purposes and then use two independently implemented ZHL-16GF.
One in my vision reb and one in my OSTC computer (German and British ?)

Kind of hate the outcome ... but lost trust is never really regained.

 

[rjack321]

so, if your PDC (lets say a Petrel) matches your deco schedule generated by the currently disfavored programs (MultiDeco/VPlanner), will you then toss it too?

Perplexing.....

I'm not tossing out software right now.
But the issue is that some apps don't produce the outcome that known codes do. Decoplanner is one of the few programs that was actually reviewed by Erik Baker. Other apps may or may not produce true ZHL16 schedules depending on the inputs. So you do have to have a certain level of trust that the black box's output is accurate and true. If it matches a different piece of software under one set of conditions that's no guarantee that it's not broken or buggy under different circumstances or plans.
For OC diving decoplanner is fairly expensive at $149, but the interface is very good and its a known entity. Its a shame that it doesn't support CCRs