ianr33
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I just dive doubles for everything.
I'm too lazy to mess about switching over hoses and wings !
I'm too lazy to mess about switching over hoses and wings !
At what point do you consider redundancy?
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This is an interesting thread as currently I am pricing out setting up doubles - going to have to put it off at least six months, maybe longer, given how much money it will cost. So pretty much I have decided not to dive below 30m with just a single tank as I am not comfortable diving to that depth with that amount of gas. Instead I am considering hiring a 40cf pony for dives I want to do below 30m, there a few wrecks I am very keen to check out in the 30-40m range. I will do this until I can afford twins. Have dived with this set up before (side slung) and have been comfortable with it. Though from what I see, the use of ponies seems to be a very heated debate! :11:
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Hmmm ... needing a scooter to find a lost buddy ... now THERE'S a concept I've never considered before (and am not likely to take seriously) ... not my idea of a particularly well-considered separation plan.
Me too ... that's why I have completely separate rigs for singles and doubles ...
As to Lynne's question, I dive redundancy when it makes sense for me to do so.
Tech dives and solo dives mean redundancy. When soloing, depending on the profile I'll either dive doubles or will dive a single rig with my buddy AL slung under my left arm.
Classes are strictly in singles, as it makes me more agile and therefore better able to respond to the unexpected things that students are prone to do from time to time.
... Bob (Grateful Diver)
Me too ... that's why I have completely separate rigs for singles and doubles ...
As to Lynne's question, I dive redundancy when it makes sense for me to do so.
Tech dives and solo dives mean redundancy. When soloing, depending on the profile I'll either dive doubles or will dive a single rig with my buddy AL slung under my left arm.
Classes are strictly in singles, as it makes me more agile and therefore better able to respond to the unexpected things that students are prone to do from time to time.
... Bob (Grateful Diver)
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I can see the agility, but I've been awfully grateful for my full doubles on more than one occasion when escorting a new diver. When they lose buoyancy control and start up, I grab them and DUMP, and it's really handy to be able to get good and negative in a hurry!
Doubles for boat dives and non-challenging shore dives.
Single 108's with an H-valve and slung Al 30 for shore dives that require some work. With the cold water here in the great lakes, the H-valve gives me peace of mind in terms of free-flows, plus the set-up is similar for my regs on doubles and singles.
Single 108's with an H-valve and slung Al 30 for shore dives that require some work. With the cold water here in the great lakes, the H-valve gives me peace of mind in terms of free-flows, plus the set-up is similar for my regs on doubles and singles.
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I dive with a pony on deep dives, or if I dive solo. I use a 20CF pony with my standard octo, and a pressure gauge. I consider this Backup Only, and do NOT factor the pony into my gas plan. Despite the *Heated Debate* I feel this is a safe way to do deepish dives even if I have a buddy. I actually don't give a fig about outspoken adversaries of my setup, rather my safety and that of my buddy(s) comes first.
I also am looking at putting together a doubles setup, but I'm not in a rush. I have dove doubles many times, so I am somewhat comfortable doing so. The cost of putting this together can be prohibitive, so I will go slow, look for deals, and put it together as I find the money and good pricing.
I also am looking at putting together a doubles setup, but I'm not in a rush. I have dove doubles many times, so I am somewhat comfortable doing so. The cost of putting this together can be prohibitive, so I will go slow, look for deals, and put it together as I find the money and good pricing.
As a new doubles diver, I'll dive doubles whenever it is safe to do so. Locally, that generally means whenever the disadvantages of doubles do not overcome the impetus to use them--generally, steep beaches with less-than-ideal conditions.
When diving doubles, I have to admit I think less about *redundancy* than having more gas capacity, which is slightly different. Since I typically dive single-tank profiles with single-tank buddies, I'm rarely concerned about a regulator or valve malfunction, and more about the peace of mind knowing that I have extra gas in the event anything happens to either me or my buddy.
They can be a bit of a hassle though, and part of me would love to go back to the simplicity/maneuverability of a single-tank setup.
When diving doubles, I have to admit I think less about *redundancy* than having more gas capacity, which is slightly different. Since I typically dive single-tank profiles with single-tank buddies, I'm rarely concerned about a regulator or valve malfunction, and more about the peace of mind knowing that I have extra gas in the event anything happens to either me or my buddy.
They can be a bit of a hassle though, and part of me would love to go back to the simplicity/maneuverability of a single-tank setup.
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