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But, as Gen San Chris said, it's up to individuals whether they do something or not as there is no Gvt Initiative to deal with cot infestations here (unlike Australia).

I think we need to be careful here, in that, from my admitedly limited reading around, the Australian program is primarily driven by economic, rather than ecological concerns. In short, they don't want the reefs devastated as they will lose significant income from tourists etc.

From what I could see, there is some evidence that CoT infestations actually increase the biodiversity, but, recovery times are outside of what we consider to be realistic times (decades).

The bottom line here is that we still do not know enough about ecology to make meaningful choices. The number of disasters that have resulted from well meaning human intervention in ecological balance are well know.

As a career scientist (not in marine biology though) I would seriously doubt that either of the two scientists bandied about here would think that they have all the answers, and I am sure that they would be the first to say that we need more research, and to formulate the questions more carefully.
 
I think we need to be careful here, in that, from my admitedly limited reading around, the Australian program is primarily driven by economic, rather than ecological concerns. In short, they don't want the reefs devastated as they will lose significant income from tourists etc.

Less than 40% of the Great Barrier Reef coral is alive. Australians are in a position where they must act regardless of tourism. If they really cared, then they would have acted must sooner rather than leaving the situation to deteriorate to 'the wire'.
 
That is correct! It's part of the natural cycle (not the human lit ones:cool2:). In Quebec alone, my home province in canada, each year there is near to 1000 forest fires kindled each summer by lightning alone! Luckily they are not often in human inhabited areas. But there are tremendous efforts put in to fight them because they cause a tremendous loss of ressources to industry.

Cheers!:)

Lightning is the most common source of forest fire.
As for my sources, I know.

:crafty:

:coffee:
 
Hello Chris, I just stepped into this conversation, after learning to dive in Australia back in the 80's and knowing about what they went through and then seeing the reef where John and Chris spend alot of their time, it would be tough to just stand by and watch the reef get overtaken by these creatures. Humans have the power to do something and they are doing it!
Here in Northern California (Lake Tahoe) the state is issuing more permits to kill Black Bear, as they are rampaging through peoples houses in the summer and fall, sure humans probably wiped out their predator years ago, but as civilized people are we going to 'stand by' and watch private property get destroyed. On our ranch we shoot coyotes as they attack are young calves, we have to protect our livelihood, especially in these tough times.
Might be tough to relate the above to the Crown of Thorns issue, but you can see what I mean!
 
Situation Report! The local guys have now collected 2,500 Crown of Thorns for John! Great work!
it might be too much of a personal question but what happens when john's money runs out?

2,500 CoT = P7,500... not much now... but later on it's 15,000 and it's gonna start to hurt...

hit the 100k cot level and somebody better discover how to use them to run a car or generate electricity (or as i said, send it to china as a viagra substitute)

Jag
 
I'm thinking Christmas Ornaments.....dry them out and hang them up.....I AM NOT GRUMPY! ....grrr
 
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