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Back in the early 80s I went to Freeport, Bahamas on a short vacation. Never having been on a tropical vacation (grew up in Michigan), I was fascinated by everything - especially the WARM water! Didn't know they made it that way.

Got talked into a snorkeling trip by my brother even though I was, at best, a very poor swimmer. Unfortunately, the snorkel boat did not have snorkeling vest - in fact, I'm not even sure they existed then. In any case I had no problem floating peacefully above the STUNNING display of colorful fishies and corals. I had never dreamed the sea could be so beautiful.

The next day we went out again but after snorkeling the captain suggested we free dive for some starfish while the boat drifted. I was a little leary of this "drifting" thing but I figured there were a bunch of us and the water was calm, so what could go wrong?

Floating along, I spied my prey and dove after it coming up with a very nice sized starfish. Unfortunately, I also came up minus on flipper. I remembered the captain's admonition about losing any gear so I tried to dive down through 12 feet of water to retrieve the flipper. That didn't work but I did succeed in losing my other flipper.

I decided that I really needed to stay over the flippers until someone else could dive down for them. Unfortunately, all the someone else's had drifted far, far away. I yelled and screamed and thrashed about but no one saw me. The situation was quickly becoming dangerous because I really did not know how to swim and I had no idea when I had learned to tread water!

I figured that, at worst, I could float on my stomach and snorkel but after trying this for a few minutes and getting water down the pipe, I started to get really worried. I had ingested too much seawater and I was on the verge of panic. "This is how stupid people die," I thought.

After the boat had drifted more than a mile, someone finally realized they were one customer short. I could see them start to turn so I yelled for all I was worth. The boat returned and the crew pulled me out of the water. I coughed up a LOT of seawater lying on the deck but I succeeded in my two missions. First, I pointed over the side and, sure enough, there were the fins. A crew member dove in and readily retrieved them. Second, I plopped my precious starfish on deck. Somehow I had held onto to it throughout the ordeal.

And then I made the worst decision of the day: I decided that I would never go swimming out on the ocean again without air strapped to my back. Upon returning to shore, we signed up for a resort SCUBA course.

This being the Bahamas, mon, the rules and regs were a little loose. We did a 15 minute intro to SCUBA in the pool and then boarded the dive boat. The first dive, in 12-15 feet of water was SPECTACULAR. I saw thousands of brightly colored fish, hundreds of colorful coral formations and - once, near the end of the dive - my instructor. I could hardly blame him for being hard to find since he was leading 12 students at the time all by himself. Besides, what could go wrong in 12 feet of water?

Emboldened by our successful first dive, my brother and I signed up for a second dive the following day - our last on the island before flying home late in the evening.

This next dive promised some real adventure because we were scheduled to go down to 65 feet. Yes, that's "sixtyfive feet" on a resort course with one sometimes present instructor. I just didn't know any better.

We received additional instruction for this dive when the instructor told us to not rise faster than our bubbles. Pretty sophisticated education.

At the dive site, we all got set to go and I, being the timid semi-swimmer, was last off the boat. And first to the bottom. Turns out I was overweighted a bit. When I hit the water, I went straight down. No stops, no slowing, no NOTHING. I hit hard on the bottom and wondered what the heck I was doing down there all by myself and why did my ears hurt so dang much?

I tried clearing my ears over and over and eventually got some relief but they were still plugged pretty good.

By the time the others arrived I had figured out that I had two weights in pockets in addition to my weight belt. Thank goodness for that because otherwise I am convinced I would have dropped the belt. Instead I dropped a couple weights and tried to remember where they were so I could pick them up before ascending.

Two weights lighter made me nice and neutral and I started to enjoy myself a bit. I thought it was pretty cool to stand on the bottom of the ocean. The ray I was standing on did not think it was so cool and gave me a dirt look before flying away after I discovered him. A HUGE jewfish tried to kiss me and nearly made me swallow my regulator. Being surprised by him caused me to suck a LOT of air and pretty soon I was getting low so I started up. Never did see the instructor.

Fortunately, I ascended slowly from our maximum depth of 85 feet (sends a shiver down my back even now) and arrived at the surface feeling fine except for my ears. I couldn't hear anything and everyone on the point was pointing at me and shouting and then I saw my brother. His mask was sloshing in blood. I shouted at him and he seemed fine and quite surprised to find all the blood from his nose when he took the mask off. With him safely aboard I finally climbed out and took my mask off - which was FILLED with blood. I don't know how I hadn't seen it. Both our noses were going pretty good and I had a little blood from one of my ears as well.

Oh well, all part of the sport I figured.

My ears hurt pretty good but I was eventually able to pop them a bit.

We returned to shore, packed up and headed for the airport.

Yup.

HOLY COW did that flight HURT!

I was practically in tears from ear pain but I worked real hard on equalizing during our descent and again achieved enough balance to prevent brain splitting pain - but not by much.

A week went by and my left ear still hurt so I went to the university infirmary and asked the doc to check it out. He looked in my left ear about 10 times and then started alternating between my left and right ear. Then he called an intern over and looked in HIS ear! Finally, he said "I think there's something wrong in there. You need to see a specialist."

Off to the ENT guy the next day. He looks in my ear, asks if I have been diving, how deep, flight interval - the whole bit. Then he tells me that my eardrum is INVERTED.

The next part is a bit fuzzy. I believe he gave me something to bite down on and then had me hold a tube just inside my nose. He said "Hold on just a second" and then hit some button...

AND MY CRANIUM OPENED AND EXPLODED ACROSS THE ROOM!

at least that's what it felt like.

I have never never never had such intense pain. The doc looked in the ear and declared me cured. He told me that no one would voluntarily submit to that kind of pain so he never tells his patients ahead of time what is going to happen. Doesn't get much repeat business either.

Years later now I have some minor hearing problems. I have some difficulty picking up conversation when there is a lot of background noise but I think that is fairly common and due more to the graceful aging process than anything else.

I went on two other resort course following this incident and it turned out my first errant instructor was the BEST of the resort course leaders! One in Hawaii nearly swam me to death (Do YOU know what it's like to suck a tank dry? I do.) The other in China stood (er..floated) by while I performed a minor rescue. He could have done it but the distressed diver was cute and I got there first so ...there!

Lesson learned: learn all the lessons. Now I am hooked up with some good guys locally and I am determined to do this right. Open water cert dives next week!
 
glad to hear you are ok and are going to continue on with your diving by getting certified. hopefully you have much better experiences this time round.

nearly every person i speak to who has done a resort dive has had a bad/near death experience. my wife (who is petrified of the water) did a resort dive a number of years ago and after receiving no instruction at all was put into 10 mtrs of water. one of the others in her group went straight to the bottom inflated his bc and shot back up like a polaris missile. the boat took him off to the hospital LEAVING THE REST OF THE GROUP BEHIND. they were picked up by a local fishing boat half an hour or so later. the dive boat never came back for them.

another friend went on a similar dive where the conditions were a bit rough but they were put in the water anyway. somehow they managed to capsize the boat WITH HER INSIDE IT. fortunately she had the presence of mind to grab some nearby gear that had been set up and get herself out.

these are just a couple of examples of resort dives gone wrong. i regularly hear many more. i'm glad i never tried one before i got certified.

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One thing I've learned over the years (I've led around 3,000 "resort" course i.e. intro divers) is that the biggest problem is often trying to force inexperienced divers beyond what they're comfortable with. Often instructors have it in their head that "this person paid for a dive, and they ARE going to do a dive. Period!" Well, some people are just so uncomfortable in the water, that in the (often short) time we have at our disposal to do the dive, (they have other activities/tours they need to get to, for instance) that there's just no way they're going to be able to safely dive on that day.

I tell my customers, only half jokingly, that I get paid whether they go underwater, hang onto the float on the surface, or sit on the beach and watch girls (or guys, depending.) What I'm trying to get across to them is that the dive is supposed to be FUN...if you really find it so stressful, maybe you'd be better off on the surface, where you can still see the fish (hanging onto the float as I pull it along) with no significant danger (as there WOULD be if that person panicked underwater.) We'll usually spend our first 5 or 10 minutes at about 6'/2m....just so they can get relaxed, breathe properly, etc. I find that once they get beyond the "oh my God, I'm underwater" feeling to the "wow, that's a neat looking fish" feeling, they'll be okay. Anything that distracts them from that first mind set seems to help....point out fish, write down their names, hand the divers a camera, whatever....

It's tough sometimes for guides to realize that they have to go at the DIVERS' pace, rather than the divers going at the GUIDE's pace. Some people, drop 'em in the water & they look like they have 1,000 dives already. Others, may HAVE 1,000 dives, but look like they've never been in the water, ha ha.

Anyhow, I too, have seen & heard of resort course disasters, but in my experience that's not usually the case. Sometimes when a beginner decides to stay on the surface for the duration of the dive (hanging onto the float), he or she will be very apologetic....but it's really no problem for me. I can SHOW someone what they need to know to safely do an intro dive with me....but if they're really terrified of being/breathing underwater, there's not a whole lot I can do about it, especially in a short time. In those 3,000 intro divers, I can't think of anything more serious happening than a little scratch from bumping a rock or coral (which I try to prevent as much as possible.)

This morning I had 2 dives....1st a couple from Taiwan, then a couple from Japan...here are photos of them after their dives....I'm sure they don't look like they've just survived a near-death experience! (Again, I've seen really bad intro experiences, but done right, most people enjoy them, I think)
 
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My girlfriend and I did 3 dives before we were certified. 1 resort course at Cozumel and a 2 tank dive boat in Puerto Vallarta. Neither time did I feel in extreme danger or have a near death experience. Now that I'm certified I feel more confident in my ability to handle an emergency with my buddy.

My resort course there was 4 divers (myself included) and 1 instructor. I believe he was able to keep a pretty good eye on all of us. We took a short course then headed to the beach with the instructor. We got in the water and put the reg in our mouths and went under. Of course I had that moment of "holy crap, I'm breathing underwater" and came back up a little freaked out but okay. Then came the scary part he said "go under and stay under" so I did. Then we did a reg recovery after that he just started swimming and off we went. It was scary at first and I had some trouble being too posotively buoyant - but once I breathed completely out I was able to sink. The dive went great from there - no one sank to the bottom - no one corked to the surface. Lots of fun - we wanted to go again but they were too busy so we went to the beach got some snorkel gear and just tooled around.

The Pureto Vallarta trip I emailed the dive shop before we came and told them we wanted to go out on their dive boat. I told them we weren't certified and they said this wasn't a problem. In retrospect I wish we had taken OW class and done our check out dives there, but it all worked out. So we get there and no one asks for a card and we get our gear and head to the boat. We are nearing Los Arcos and our Instructor asks for our C-Cards. uh-oh. I told him we didn't have cards and weren't certified and I had told the shop this. He was a little surprised. He gave us a quick skills review which we didn't have any trouble with. We did our giant stride off the boat with no trouble. Great dive, saw lots of stuff. Again never felt I was in eminent danger. Both my girlfriend and I had some troubles equalizing past 35 feet so we stayed around that level. I now know to equalize much earlier than I did then. Back then I started to equalize when I felt the pressure.

Were these dives more dangerous than my dives since certification. Most likely. Were they too dangerous. I don't think so.

Again just my experiences.
 
Is this an appropriate question to ask in a public forum? Seems to be a pretty personal thing to me.

Seriously, I am one of those blessed with fairly open ear canals and am able to descend "rapidly" without equalizing on almost every dive. Still, I try to descend horizontally to slow my descent and allow me to rinse and clear my mask, turn on my camera and make any last minute adjustments. I have buddies who are not so blessed and they may take 5 minutes to descend to depth.
 
timle:
Were these dives more dangerous than my dives since certification. Most likely. Were they too dangerous. I don't think so.

Again just my experiences.


Revisit this question after you've logged 50 or so, then 75, then 100. See what your answer is then. Or take aow, or a specialty like deep, uw nav, s&r, or better, when you can, rescue and again ask yourself this. You may come to a different conclusion.:11: :D
 
JimLap:
Revisit this question after you've logged 50 or so, then 75, then 100. See what your answer is then. Or take aow, or a specialty like deep, uw nav, s&r, or better, when you can, rescue and again ask yourself this. You may come to a different conclusion.:11: :D

Actually I doubt I will come to a different conclusion. I'm working with my dive shop right now to do AOW. After that I will do rescue. Those classes will better prepare me for different situations like deep or night. However within the limits of my first 3 dives - 35ft or less, calm conditions, max 4 people for the instructor to watch - I feel like those were acceptable risk conditions. You take a risk every time you going diving its the situation and your education which determines the level of risk - which in my opinion on those 3 dives were not unneccessarily high.

Again its just my experiences and your mileage may vary - but thats the nice thing about my opinion - its mine! :)
 
Regarding resort courses: My eldest son and I did our first dive in a resort course in Grand Cayman. It was done from the shore, right at the dive shop. The staff seemed well trained, and took their time with the review of what we would be doing (about 45 minutes of land discussion and kitting up) followed by a set of tentative skills drills in waist-deep water. About 4 divers per instructor. Then a 30 minute swim and dive into 35' water just 35 yards further offshore. A great time and sold us both on the sport. A couple of divers bailed due to ear issues, but most had a great experience.

Two years later I took my wife and younger son along on a boat dive in Key Largo, with what was supposed to be a resort course dive. A single instructor had the two of them, another pair of non-cert beginners, and an OW class of four he was taking for their cert dives. This in 2-4 chop following a hurricane (Dennis). Needless to say, he was spread a bit thin, and their experience was vastly different than my own had been.

They do vary, but I would not say they are all as horrible as your experiences have been.
 
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