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How serious a screw-up was this?

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba Discussions' started by shake-and-bake, May 10, 2011.

  1. shake-and-bake

    shake-and-bake Angel Fish

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: San Francisco
    I'm a pretty new diver. Last month, after several shore dives in Monterey, I took my first warm water, boat diving trip. Everything went great for me; I had a fantastic time. On the last day we were joined by two guys who obviously were great pals and highly experienced divers. The dive shop set up our gear; we just got into our BC's and rolled backwards off the side of the boat. After the last dive, I learned that they had sent one of the pals over the side without turning on his air. He joked about it ("That was a tip buster!") but there was a little edge to his jokes. I'm sure he and his buddy (and the DM) had enough experience to solve the problem quickly, but I imagine that could be a serious issue with someone inexperienced and/or prone to panic. So how would that rate on a scale of one (no big deal, this sort of thing happens all the time in scuba) to ten (shocking negligence, dive shop shoud be reported)?
  2. scubafanatic

    scubafanatic Great White

    Most would say that ultimately it's the job of every certified diver to be responsible for checking that their gas supply is operational/sufficient, remember, for most of us, mommy stopped tying our shoe laces a LONG time ago too!
  3. Codiak

    Codiak Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Beaver Lake, Nebraska
    It's an eight plus

    The edge in his voice tells me he recognized his own screw ups

    Mistakes happen and it certainly is a tip buster for the boat crew dive shop.

    But the diver made big ones too if he failed to check his gear...
    Did he check his inflator?
    Check his SPG?
    Check his primary or secondary reg?

    Did his buddy?!

    Regardless of his experience level it sounds like a scuba refresher at a different shop is in order!
  4. tstormdiver

    tstormdiver ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: Kentucky
    That's why I don't let others set up my gear:no:,.... or if there is a policy of such, I check it over thoroughly & set it the way I like it before getting into the water.
  5. Teamcasa

    Teamcasa Sr. Moderator Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Near Pasadena, CA
    The only serious issue was his own failing to check his gear before splash down.
  6. KevinHoward

    KevinHoward Nassau Grouper

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
    Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado
    It is ALWAYS the responsibility of the diver to personally verify that their equipment is set up and ready to go when they go into the water. I would never ever expect a dive boat to turn on my air nor would I trust that to ever happen. Always always do a pre-dive buddy check. It only takes a few seconds to go over whats needed.
  7. scubafanatic

    scubafanatic Great White

    luckily, if you show up on the boat looking like you have a clue and have a 'tech' look about your gear/configuration, the boat crew will happily give you the leeway to do your own thing and stay away from your gear, so they can focus on those divers that really do need the handholding, so I'm happy and the DM's are happy too!
  8. TSandM

    TSandM Missed and loved by many.

    # of Dives:
    Location: Woodinville, WA
    It isn't good that the person who set the gear up didn't turn his gas on. But it's REALLY bad that he didn't notice. I'll bet nobody on the boat did a buddy check, did they? It's commonly omitted, but the reason you were taught to do them is that properly done, they will pick up these issues.

    People sometimes ask why you should be able to reach your own single tank valve -- this is why.
    mselenaous and freewillie like this.
  9. scubadobadoo

    scubadobadoo Loggerhead Turtle

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: SoCal
    I agree completely with the above.

    This little mistake (mostly the diver's) could have killed him if he/she were prone to panic, couldn't get to a buddy etc, or couldn't reach his/her own valve.

    I don't mind responsible people handling my own gear and even setting it up in certain conditions but I ALWAYS double and even triple check my gear before entering the water.
  10. jwalko

    jwalko Barracuda

    This is why I always set up and check my own gear. Even when on a boat where the general policy is for them to switch tanks, I switch my own. In fact, when doing buddy checks, I will go as far as telling the person I am checking that I am not going to touch their valve on their tank and will ask if they are sure they turned it on (and to check it). My reasoning is this...I've heard enough stories about people checking a valve and, thinking they are turning it on are really turning it off. I don't want anyone touching my valve after I've turned it on. And I always double check my valve and ask my buddy if they've checked theirs. At least by making each other aware of this, we won't forget.


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