New Suunto D4

Discussion in 'Computers, Gauges, Watches and Analyzers' started by buddhasummer, Dec 28, 2007.

  1. buddhasummer

    buddhasummer Divemaster

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    Does anyone know if the new Suunto D4 has a user replaceable battery? I have checked out Suuntos site but they make no mention of this. Thanks
     
  2. micklock

    micklock Manta Ray

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    If you go under FAQ & helpdesk on Suunto web site there is a question about battery compartment replacement it says there are kits available with battery, cover and o-ring.
     
  3. buddhasummer

    buddhasummer Divemaster

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    ok but does it actually say there is one for the D4? on the page I read it does not list the D4 as one of those. Can you provide me with a link....thanks
     
  4. Scared Silly

    Scared Silly Regular of the Pub

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    My guess is that it does as all of Suunto watches / dive computers have user replaceable batteries. We own a bunch of both watches and dive computers which are all user replaceable.
     
  5. buddhasummer

    buddhasummer Divemaster

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    Sally you are mistaken, as far as wrist top dive computers go the D9, D6 and Stinger all need to be returned to a dealer for battery repalcement thus far only the Mosquito has a user replaceable battery. Perhaps you are refering to the Gekko, Vyper etc
     
  6. micklock

    micklock Manta Ray

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    Question 14 in the helpdesk says user can replace battery on all wristop computers except 9 series. But I dont have one I was just looking at the stinger so I'm not sure if you can replace it or not.
     
  7. micklock

    micklock Manta Ray

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    After reading question 15 it says wristop computers are not meant for diving. thats why it's not listed
     
  8. diverep1976

    diverep1976 Equipment Manufacturer

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    The Suunto D4 requires that the Wristop "dive" computer go back to Aqua Lung or one of its authorized service centers for replacement. The new D4 has a metal backplate and bezel to reduce flex in the case. Thus making it a mfg. serviceable only unit. As a result of its new electronic components, and now using the same battery as the D6, D9, Cobra, Vyper and Vytec series, the battery life, according to Suunto is 3-4 years. If purchased through an authorized Aqua Lung dealer (US Only) Aqua Lung will give the original owner 3 free battery replacement coupons when you register your warranty online and extend the 2 year warranty to a 5 year pro rated warranty. Check with your dealer for current details.

    Dan Rodarte
    Aqua Lung Regional Manager
     
  9. buddhasummer

    buddhasummer Divemaster

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    Not that I doubted you Dan...just an upate for those who may be interested I rec a mail from Suunto directly and they too advise that the D4 will need to be returned to an authorised dealer for battery replacement. If Aeris and Oceanic (same?) can make a high end watch computer(Epic/Atom 2) with user replaceable battery why cant Suunto, its a pain not to mention additional cost to have to return it, and if you are living on an island in thailand its a real PIA...was gonna buy the D4 but decided to buy an Epic or Atom 2 instead. Come on Suunto...
     
  10. diverep1976

    diverep1976 Equipment Manufacturer

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    Buddhasummer:

    Suunto decided that the trade off for a 3-4 year battery life interval by using a metal backplate and bezel out weighed the problems that could come of a unit with a user replaceable wristop. Remember Suunto has far more experience in this arena than anyone else and has moved away from that direction. I'm not here to say that you'll have problems with the Epic or Atom 2; I'm certain you'll be perfecty happy with either choice. I'm just saying that Suunto has seen far too many cases that were compromised because of stress in the plastic case. Good Luck and have a Happy New Year!

    DR
     
  11. drbill

    drbill The Lorax for the Kelp Forest

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    Dive computers which require a return to the factory and 2-4 weeks of turnaround are a royal PITA to those who live in remote places. It forces one to have, at minimum, two computers... or four as I have so I can dive with a minimum of two at a time.
     
  12. buddhasummer

    buddhasummer Divemaster

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    I understand what you are saying and it makes sense to me, but does that mean the Suunto Mosquito is prone to flooding having the plastic user replaceable battery?
     
  13. Ice Mike

    Ice Mike Angel Fish

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    Uuuhhh wouldn't 3 computers be enough??

    sent 1 off, dive the other 2 etc.

    Still that is one more comp than I intent to own.
     
  14. diverep1976

    diverep1976 Equipment Manufacturer

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    Buddhasummer,

    I never implied that the Mosquito was prone to flooding or any of the other computers you mentioned. But now that you bring that up, all manufacturers' computers can and have been compromised because of user replaceable batteries, I've witnessed plenty in all my dive trips. Some individuals do a better job than most at this task. I merely said that the D4's case is a new one and one that is reinforced with a metal backplate and bezel. And because it's done that way it will have to go back for battery replacement every 3-4 years, not such a bad deal when you think that it's being done by a professional. Just my .02 cents worth. Good luck out there.

    DR
     
  15. Gombessa

    Gombessa  

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    Does anyone know when the D4 is going to be available, and at what price?
     
  16. buddhasummer

    buddhasummer Divemaster

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    In japan they say around march and at current Ex rate around $800 USD, I assume it will be similar in the States...
     
  17. diverep1976

    diverep1976 Equipment Manufacturer

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    Gombessa,

    We were told at DEMA that the D4 will be available sometime this month. I would guess the latter part. The Price wil be $650.00.

    DR
     
  18. Gombessa

    Gombessa  

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    Not bad. So we're probably looking at around $600 street, eventually $550 at LP? I was hoping for a bit lower than the D6, but I can understand the price positioning.
     
  19. MarkUK

    MarkUK Scuba Media & Publications

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    In the UK, the D4 is going to be £299, which is about £160-170 cheaper than the D6 with a rubber strap.

    Got a prototype of the D4 that I have been playing with for a few months and it is a nice unit. Anyone familiar with the D6/D9 or the Vyper2/Cobra2 will have no problems navigating around the menus. The screen is much the same display as the D6/D9 and it fits in with the 'family look' much better than the Mosquito it replaces.

    The freediving modes on the computer are neat, and it is sure to find favour with all the breath-hold divers out there. Especially due to the separate freediving log.

    Mark
     
  20. alphazo

    alphazo Garibaldi

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    The user's manual for the D4 is not available (yet) on Suunto website. However, Google indicated its availability on the Aqualung one.... the full one (100 pages).

    http://www.aqualung.com/technical_li...en_highres.pdf

    Here are the differences found in the user's manual between the D6 and D4:
    - Plastic body on D4
    - No electronic compass (D6 only)
    - Weight : 85g/3.0 oz (D6: 113g/3.98 oz)
    - Oxygen %: 21-50% (21-99% on D6)
    - Oxygen partial pressure display: 0.5-1.6 bar (0.2-3 bar on D6)
    - Recording interval: new free dive mode (default 1 second, adjustable 1, 2, 5s)
    - Higher memory capacity : 80 hours of diving (D6: 36 hours), with 20 second recording interval d'intervale) contre 36 heures
    - Battery life is shorter on D4 : 0 dives/y –> 2 years, 100 dives/year –>1,5 years, 300 dives/year –>1 year (D6: 0 dives/y - 3 years, 100 dives/year – 2 years, 300 dives/year – 1.5 years)

    Besides the above differences, other technical specifications are pretty much the same between D4 and D6.

    Alphazo
     

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