Sea Sick on a live-aboard?????

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I will second the ReliefBand suggestion. I tend to feel bad during the first of the trip but get used to the motion after a few days if I use nothing. When I use the ReliefBand, I never feel bad at all. I have used the drugs, but I like this much better. Also, if you are going to use this for a long time, be sure and take extra batteries.

dnhill
 
The following is an updated version of a piece from my Jan/Feb '00 "Ask RSD" column in "Rodale's Scuba Diving":

"Sea sickness, which shows wide variation in susceptibility among individuals, is not yet fully understood. It is believed to occur when portions of the brain tasked with maintaining balance receive input from the eyes, inner ear, muscles and joints that is inconsistent and unexpected over an extended period of time.

Prevention is a first step. Avoid fatigue and get adequate rest. Eat modestly, avoiding greasy, fatty, acidic and spicy foods. Don't skip breakfast, but stick to bland foods like toast, rolls and cereal. Go easy on tea and coffee, and very, very easy on alcoholic beverages. When on the boat, don't get overheated--stay under a sunshade, don't put on your protective suit until necessary, and get in the water as soon as possible. Search out a spot low and in the center where motion is minimized, face forward, focus your eyes on a fixed object on the horizon or elsewhere, avoid unnecessary neck movements and stay out of exhaust fumes. Do not go below, read anything or look through binoculars. If you must vomit, do so freely, but not anywhere on the boat, and especially not in the marine toilet.

There are plenty of medications available, and you may wish to discuss this with your physician. Among those reported to be the most effective are meclizine and scopolamine. Prescription strength meclizine commonly comes as Antivert. Scopolamine can be delivered through a transdermal patch, Transderm Scop, orally as Scopace and as a gel. The gel reportedly works faster, but not as long as the patch. Scopolamine is okayed by DAN with a trial run topside. Occasionally Phenergan is recommended. It can cause very serious drowsiness, however, and is sometimes prescribed in combination with a stimulant to counteract this. The above drugs are prescription only and have reported side effects, most commonly dryness of the mouth and drowsiness. They may also cause blurred vision, dizziness and even confusion in some users, and it is recommended to carefully discuss their use with your physician, give them a trial run prior to use in conjunction with diving, and take them only according to instructions.

Over the counter (OTC) drugs include Bonine (meclizine), Dramamine (dimenhydrinate; not recommended due to demonstrated adverse effects on alertness & performance both topside & at increased atmospheres of pressure), Dramamine II (meclizine; advertised as a "less drowsy" formula. As this implies, be aware that some individuals still do experience some degree of drowsiness) and Triptone (Same active ingredient as original Dramamine, so draw your own conclusions) . A British drug, Stugeron (cinnarizine), has been mentioned by several sources as an effective treatment (Have seen a recent research piece suggesting impairment at higher doses), but it is not yet available in the US. Those diving in such places as Mexico & the British Virgin Islands can find it. Many report these OTC medications most effective if taken at bedtime the night prior to diving, with a second dose about an hour before diving, although recommended dosage amounts should of course not be exceeded. These medications often cause significant dryness of the mouth. Stay very well hydrated.

Considering more "natural" remedies, ginger is frequently mentioned, which can be taken in powdered, crystallized or root form (recommended preparations), or as ginger snaps, ginger ale, or tea. Just make sure they contain actual ginger and not just artificial flavoring. As heartburn with the use of ginger has been reported, also pack an antacid. Others swear by wrist straps, such as 'Sea Bands,' usually wooden or plastic balls on elastic bands which are placed so as to exert pressure on an acupressure point on the inside of the wrist. There are also 'artificial-horizon' glasses. Even aromatherapy has been tried, with a combination of mandarin, peppermint, spearmint and lavender oil being recommended.

In the final analysis, you will need to discover what works best for you with the least risk, side effect, cost and inconvenience. If you take any medications, you should understand their adverse effects and carefully follow directions for use. And remember, there is one safe, sure cure: 'Sleep under a tree all day.' "

This is educational only and does not constitute or imply a doctor-patient relationship. It is not medical advice to you or any other individual, and should not be construed as such.

Best regards.

DocVikingo
 
bluwolf:
Scopace is also a prescription, but as a pill, you can set your own dosage. No patch getting wet. No worry about getting the chemical from the patch in your eyes. If you start feeling sick, take another pill. Onset of action is 1hr, versus 4 hrs for the patch. Costs only about 35 cents per pill, where patch is $5.25.

You made me laugh. When my wife was in grad school, one day we realized that her pupil was dilated and would not undilate. She went to the doctor the next day and he had no idea, so went to the eye specialist the next day to find out what was going on. After awhile, the eye specialist asked what she did at "work" (grad student) and she explained that she worked in a science lab and he asked if she worked with scapolomine and she said yes. Turns out scapolomine makes your pupil dilate for several days if you get it in your eye.

Your comment about getting in your eyes just made me laugh :shades:

Wife and I were just talking about a live-aboard in Australia next year so this information comes in handy. Thanks....
 
Oops, I thought I had posted here before... I have always had seasickness problems. If I go on a liveaboard I normally get a drug called 'cyclizine' it is prescription only, so please check with your doctor first. Also, although one of the side effects listed is possible drowsiness, I don't get it.

Maybe your doctor can give you a sample (or small amount first) and you should try it on land before hand.

I did try the patch and over the counter meds before, but none worked until I found this one.

Good luck.

Maria
 
I know this is a old thread but I have to add this about the Scop patch: if you find the dosage is too high with the whole thing, you can cut it in half. This is what I always do. They last 2 days like that (well, for me anyway), so you get 4 days out of each.
 
Windstar cruises is offering a wonderful dive cruise from January through April. It starts off in Cozumel and ends up in Utilla! The Windstar ships are top notch vessels and I do not believe you will get sea sick on one of these. You can use a patch as suggested before or bonanine to not get sea sick. Liveaboard trips are the best and easiest vacation for diving! I am doing 2 this year myself. I specialize in dive travel and this is the way to go diving!!
Email me at dianedarcy@hotmail.com if you want more info on liveaboard....they are awesome!
 
teknitroxdiver:
I know this is a old thread but I have to add this about the Scop patch: if you find the dosage is too high with the whole thing, you can cut it in half. This is what I always do. They last 2 days like that (well, for me anyway), so you get 4 days out of each.

Might want to see the "How to Use Transderm Scop®" section at http://www.transdermscop.com/site2/view-insert.html where it indicates, "Do not cut the patch."

Best regards.

DocVikingo
 
Wow. My doctor told me it was okay. Guess not. Hmm, wonder why you can't?
 
bluwolf:
Scopace is what you need. This is the same as the patch (scopolamine), but in a pill form. And the patch is 1.5 mg, where scopace is 0.4 mg, so the dose is smaller. As such, it's only good for 8hrs instead of 3 days, Onset of action is 1hr, versus 4 hrs for the patch. Costs only about 35 cents per pill, where patch is $5.25.
More information at www.scopace.com.

I like the patch. Never been sick with it.

As for the above, bear in mind that if you take 1-2 pills every 8 hours for three days at $0.35 per pill the cost comes up to the same as the patch.
 

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