That's it. I'm sick and tired. I quit.

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Congratulations on your decision to quit smoking. My experience quiting (1 November, 1987, after 25 years as a smoker) is likely not very unique, and so I'd like to share one thing about the addicted mind that may help. In my case, my addicted brain knew that I was determined to resist all urges and desires to smoke, so it manufactured a little fantasy to try to fool me... went something like this - "You ought to have a cigarette now. If you don't have a cigarette you are bad and evil - having a cigarette is the right thing to do." It was almost palpably real. Be ready for it.
About vegetarianism... well, everybody to their own kick. As for me, God didn't put my eyes in the front of my head for grazing.
Rick
 
LOL!

The stuff that I'm really interested in isn't really vegitarian... It's some philosophies on diet that come from one Dr. Young, who talks quite a bit about dietary needs.

While the diet that he recommends appears to be mostly veg, it's not completely... There is a small amount of fish or even chicken in some cases that is recommended.

In short, it's pretty interesting stuff. I don't know Andrew's real "take" on this stuff. I understand he's vegan, meaning that he uses no animal product whatsoever... Not only does he not eat meat, but he apparently eats no dairy or eggs either. In short, no animal products.

But I could be wrong on that. He might really just have a very reduced diet of said products, which basically is what I'm studying now.

...So I don't know that it's really accurate to say that this new diet is vegetarian... But it certainly feels that way. You're talking to a guy who'd sit and eat a quart of ice cream at one sitting. You're talking to a guy who thought nothing of ordering the "three cheese triple cheeseburger with bacon. Fries on the side." Pretty much, my diet has always consisted of about 80% meats and dairy. This new thing feels very much like vegetarian to me.

But I told myself that I'd go find out for myself. I told myself that I'd give this "voodoo" a fair shake and see what happens. I promised myself that I'd see what happens when I change my lifestyle. I'm really skeptical, but my mind is open.

You know, this is exactly what happened with me and DIR. I was very skeptical, but went in with an open mind.

We'll see what happens.

Thanks, y'all, for the warm support. I can at least consider this "training" for the world record dive coming up. I have some issues there that are still unresolved, and I've got to try some of this stuff out before I know for sure how to solve the issues.

We'll see.
 
There have been plenty of good points made on the vegan thing already, but let's add a few more....

1. You don't have a functional appendix. You would if we were designed to eat mostly (or entirely) vegan foods. Its vestigal because our digestive system isn't set up for that.

2. We have a mid-length digestive tract. It is not very short, as is a dog's (which is designed almost exclusively for meats) nor is it very long, such as that of a cow or horse, designed almost entirely for the consumption of vegetable matter. Rather, its designed for a balance of both kinds of food, in roughly equal proportions. Surprise!

3. We have binocular vision. You don't need that if you don't hunt. We have it and we do, and have since we figured out how to take fallen sticks and make spears out of them. If the point of your vision is to EVADE predators, binocular vision is actually a detrimental adaptation, since you can't see out the back of your eyeballs (eyes on the SIDE of your head would be better adapted to avoiding predation by other creatures!)

There's a lot more, but that's a good start....
 
I quit the habit about 5 years ago, after 13 years of puffing. at first it was difficult because my day time job is to promote cigs (i do commercials for cigs so i have it with me practically all day). i focused on running, swimming, climbing, adventure racing and of course, scuba-diving. all these activities require me to be in tip-
top shape. i never felt better!

good luck Sea Jay.
 
for providing the link I think:wink: Interesting view point even if it is technically incorrect.

Vegetarianism can be nutritionally sound particularly if it is whats known as lacto-ovo-vegetarian. This provides B-12. If you follow a vegan diet I believe you need to take a B-12 supplement. Selecting a wide variety of foods helps to insure adequate nutrition i.e. vitamins minerals as well as proteins, carbohydrates and proteins.
 
Genesis once bubbled...
I bet GUE would mandate veg.... if they could get away with it.

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They sure would. But only for you.

And little green men in black neoprene hoods will come down and force you to eat bark and leaves underwater.
 
Congratulations on making such a great life changing decision. Please let us know what we can do to help you out through this. You can do it!

:D

Brian
 
I'm not a strict vegetarian, a vegan or a tree hugger (PS: TOM, very funny....:) )

I do however eat vegetarian most of the time. I eat vegetarian when I travel, and about 5 - 6 days a week. When I don't 100% veg, I eat broiled fish, broiled chicken breast, etc with my veg. A few times a year we'll eat steak. Once in a great while I'll dive into In-N-Out (local buger place in So Cal...absoutly rules...) - but mostly veg.

That's just me. Been me for years now. I love hot broiled fish or chicken over a cool salad. Some balsamic and roasted pine nuts, some Kalamata olives and Portabello... maybe some snappy goat cheeze...what's not to love?

You need balance. We all need balance. You need a plan. You're on the path, man.

Moderation. Balance. A Plan.

Rock on CJ.

k
 
This is the first time I have posted to the board. Last month I finished escorting my mother through painful radiation and chemo to treat her lung Cancer. After seeing her struggle for years to quit, I am impressed with anyone who can do it and deny tobacco another statistic. Best of luck in your endeavor.
 
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