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Yup ... and you'll notice that all the other divers participating in the forum disapproved of his behavior, and the thread was quickly shut down (this was in the DIR forum).Yes it is true that some DIR people give the whole concept a bad name by taking it to attitudinal extremes. Here is an example of one that went so far that The Deco Stop actually closed the thread, something rarely done there. In this case, the DIR devotee expresses relief to be posting in the DIR forum, away from the non-DIR divers, whom he categorizes as "tards."
The Deco Stop
What that should tell you is that while there are "Rambo" types in every crowd, they in no way represent the majority.
On the other hand, I didn't read that as a slam on non-DIR divers so much as I did someone who would mark a deco bottle "Oxygen - 70" ... :shocked2:
As I mentioned previously ... GI3 had some social issues. Frankly, I think his mommy should've taken his keyboard away from him. Would've made it a lot easier for people to look past the colorful language and see that DIR goes well beyond backplates, long hoses, and bad attitudes.Yes, GI3 contributes much to it, and yes he gave stroke definitions in other places that go well beyond the one Bob quoted. For example, I read one in which he said that any diver who used 80% O2 for decompression was automatically a stroke. (He said it with his customary great emphasis and vigor.)
I have personally had someone use the quote Bob supplied as a reason why non-DIR divers are all strokes. Irvine's list of characteristics of strokes includes anyone whose gear is not "optimal." As this person pointed out to me, if my gear was not precisely as prescribed, then it is not optimal, and therefore I am a stroke.
The 80% discussion was where I learned the term "farm animal stupid" ... which led me to wonder what George had against farm animals.
With the exception of my first trimix class (IANTD), all my tech training is NAUI. But when I do tech dives with GUE-trained divers, I find that we're on the same page pretty seamlessly. The real work, for me, was figuring out how to do a tech dive with a buddy who dives a Megaladon.As for me, all my techncial training has been strictly DIR. My instructor is technically TDI, but he is openly DIR in his approach, based on his own GUE-training. (Why he is a TDI instructor is a complicated story.) I was the only one of his students with background knowledge in this issue, so I did not need the warning, but he implored his students not to be like that, not to be among the ones contributing to that image.
... only if you take them seriously ... and I'm just a bit too ornery to give them that much satisfaction ...I have dived with a number of DIR-trained divers, every one of who was very skilled, and every one of whom was a pleasant and gracious dive buddy. It is sad that extremists (perhaps on both sides) have created this image.
... Bob (Grateful Diver)