Why do people remove artifacts from wrecks?

[BRT]

ummmm.....
Correct me if I am wrong,
But for the most part, ALL of the gold, silver, emeralds and some of the other stuff ought NOT to have been "repatriated" to Espana, but instead should be given to the descendants of the slave labor in Africa, and The Americas where it was taken from, pretty much at the end of a gun or a sword.
You could build a lot of schools, hospitals, and still have money left to staff them.
Chug
Thinks that someone has been crapping on someone, for well over 10,000 years.

Sorry, I never enslaved anybody. And the people you would give it to are not slaves. Some of my ancestors may have been slaves. And some may have been slave owners. Do I get punished or rewarded? If we are trying to right wrongs going back 10,000 years the world will be a confusing and unjust place.

 

[Knee_Deep_Diver]

Here’s how it actually works.

You will compile a great collection, usually as a bachelor. Then your bride or girlfriend finally gets fed up and [-]makes[/-] relentlessly influences you to donate it to a museum, school, local dive shop, a friend… or any other place to get that crap out of her nest.

You “might” be able to move some of it to your man cave, but that will just delay the inevitable. It all ends up in the same place when your hairs donate it for a deduction, or sell everything off on E-bay —

Trust me, I am a recovering brassoholic.

 

[yardpro]

oh crap..... someone brought up reparations..........

 

[BugHunterNY]

We're all nuts - and both sides of this argument have valid principles. It's a conundrum that each individual needs to puzzle out themselves. On that tangent, however, there are some firm "rules of the road" that even brass hounds adhere to. War Graves should not be touched. The Department of The Navy has gone so far as to praise divers as a community they entrust to watch over their sunken ships.

Read here, a response DEMA received from the Navy, regarding sunken military craft. The Navy goes on to praise responsible divers as ambassadors to these sunken treasures. IMO, this faith in our community should not be abused, and we should strive to maintain our standing as responsible underwater docents for these military treasures.

http://www.dema.org/news/173665/DEM...delines-for-Archaeological-Investigations.htm

Truk is a War Grave, as is U Who and many others. Out of respect for the service members they should not be picked apart but left un disturbed. Chatterton has a great anecdote in Shadow Divers, hounding some prick who took bones off 869. He was right, and did not let up on the guy until those remains were put back.

The piece of garbage that takes live ammo off the USS San Diego (and endangers all those on the dive boat) deserves to be ridiculed, but The Oregon won't be around much longer - and better it's preserved on a mantle for a few decades than dissolved in silt in a few years. And what about the other thousands of wrecks that have no historical significance? The diver that perseveres to bring a piece of that to the surface does so for it's value of what it represents to him, his conquering of the elements, training and a love for what exploration stands for.

Oh, Lobsters don't count. I'll pull them all day long off the wrecks


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[industrious95]

everything that sinks in the ocean is fair game unless a wartime sinking, or a significant historical ship.

Which is our government's idea of "preservation." Allowing it to deteriorate to the point that it basically dissappears. But at least EVERYONE SHARES in the ability to not see it EQUALLY.

 

[Centrals]

I enjoy wreck diving but I won't remove anything from it.

 

[Mike]

Take only pictures please.


I'd rather see the brand new shiny bell, the recently encrusted bell, the deteriorating bell, the barely recognizable almost completely rusted away to almost unrecognizable bell...

... than the empty yoke that once held a bell.

 

[yardpro]

I think it is our duty to remove the artifact and to display them so all people can see them. After all the people that don't work share my hard earned money, why not allow people that don't dive, have never made the effort to take a course nor gone through any expense to see what we work so hard to be able to view.
I mean really. If we are going to do this socialism thing, let's do it right

 

[BugHunterNY]

I think it is our duty to remove the artifact and to display them so all people can see them. After all the people that don't work share my hard earned money, why not allow people that don't dive, have never made the effort to take a course nor gone through any expense to see what we work so hard to be able to view.
I mean really. If we are going to do this socialism thing, let's do it right

So... You're my new Dive Buddy. Since all the air you're carrying belongs to everyone, I'll gladly breath it for [with] you.


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[yardpro]

Sure...
Why not. We awe all supposed to shAre and be equal.
Or so we are being told

---------- Post added September 12th, 2014 at 08:48 PM ----------

I guess I should park my porche in the street with the keys in is so everyone e can experience the joy of driving it