I also thought that this thread had raised the bar on these types of discussions. YMMV.
Dolphin Slaughter in Japan
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Geoff,
Since you will be going to Futo next month, I really hope you can meet with Mr. Ishii. He can shed some light as to how the Taiji slaughter can be stopped, and what we can do to help him in his excellent work.
Really looking forward to your trip report.
Since you will be going to Futo next month, I really hope you can meet with Mr. Ishii. He can shed some light as to how the Taiji slaughter can be stopped, and what we can do to help him in his excellent work.
Really looking forward to your trip report.
As a note - Kim and I had discussed the possibilities of analyzing samples of whale meat for the presence of pollutants, especially heavy metals. Sadly, importation outside of Japan is a hurdle...even with desiccated samples. Luckily, there is a fair amount of extant data that indicates that this product isn’t something you’d want to serve to anyone, or any cherished pet. There would be nothing quite like additional layers of non-partisan data to jog lunch and health officials into relegating these products to where they need to be – the bin.
IMO, the consumer end of this fishery will collapse soon. Probably less than a decade. No one who loves their family would serve this flesh unless they were suffering from Munchausen by proxy.
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IMO, the consumer end of this fishery will collapse soon. Probably less than a decade. No one who loves their family would serve this flesh unless they were suffering from Munchausen by proxy.
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Two things - I'm not going for sure (finding people to go with in December is tough with Christmas, holidays, the perceived cold weather etc).. and if I do go I won't be able to talk to Mr. Ishii as I don't speak Japanese and I doubt he speaks English....
I will do my best though, and if not in December I will definitely be down there next year again.
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Huh...Looks like this thread has run out of steam..
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A note. The EU, the USA, Australia and NewZealand have all asked Japan to desist operations in the Antarctic refuge just recently. In 2006 several countries voiced their opinions regarding whaling.
17 Governments Ask Japanese to Stop Antarctic Whaling
The fact that the whalers are going after endangered Humpback and Fin whales this season.
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17 Governments Ask Japanese to Stop Antarctic Whaling
The fact that the whalers are going after endangered Humpback and Fin whales this season.
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Mr. X,
Great news, but the question still remains.
Will the Japanese STOP? We all know that the deafest person in the world is the one who would not listen.
Great news, but the question still remains.
Will the Japanese STOP? We all know that the deafest person in the world is the one who would not listen.
I know what you mean. However, deafness does not impede ability to listen. I used to work with the Deaf, hence I wanted to add that perspective.
In this case it's more about lying, stuffing pockets and conducting sham research to stuff the lab coats. Here's the latest news. No great departure from the usual tactics.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world...1195753306762.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap2
I have a question. What I got reading this thread is that, by far, the greatest numbers of dolphins are killed when accidentally caught (by-catch). In comparison the numbers killed intentionally seem insignificant.
If the goal is to protect dolphin numbers isn't "by-catch" the logical area to focus?
I don't have any strong opinions on the subject one way or the other but after reading this thread, I can't help get the impression that environmental issues aren't the greatest concern here. I haven't seen any data presented in this thread that demonstrates any sound ecological arguement aginst dolphin hunting. Granted, the consumption of pollutants is a concern but we have that same concern with almost all fish these days. It really looks like some people want to stop the practice just because they don't like it. It's ok to dislike it but that isn't an arguement that's likely to convince someone else to take up your likes and dislikes.
If the goal is to protect dolphin numbers isn't "by-catch" the logical area to focus?
I don't have any strong opinions on the subject one way or the other but after reading this thread, I can't help get the impression that environmental issues aren't the greatest concern here. I haven't seen any data presented in this thread that demonstrates any sound ecological arguement aginst dolphin hunting. Granted, the consumption of pollutants is a concern but we have that same concern with almost all fish these days. It really looks like some people want to stop the practice just because they don't like it. It's ok to dislike it but that isn't an arguement that's likely to convince someone else to take up your likes and dislikes.
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