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Aside from that Bonaire makes a lot of real good points. Some say that the more parts you have the more ways it can fail. Personally I don't think that's an issue these days but still get something you're comfortable with. Some people like snorkels with their own plastic clips, others like snorkel keepers.
Some hate the weight of dry snorkels, while other like the fact that you only have to clear a dry snorkel once and then not have to worry about it.

Sorry to bust you on that Bonaire, I just like basic snorkels better. =]

This is the simple J tube and I would still avoid it: Cressi Freediving Snorkel California, All Black

You want least a basic contour or a bottom section that is flex.

I agree that a snorkel can be great without being dry and having one or two purge valves and two flex sections. What I was trying to say was stay away from things at both extremes (the Kapitol Reef dual tube at the uber complex end and the simple J tube without any flex/contour at the basic end)

I think you hit on the head with: "get something you're comfortable with"
 
I was told to get matching equipment (same manufacturer) for the reg, Octo and BC. That way when you service it you can just take it to one dive shop.

I do try and keep each reg set one manufacturer. That said, I see no reason to keep the BC the same brand unless I am using an octo/inflator combo such as the Air2. Which I don't suggest but that is a different thread...

Many shops will service more than one brand. You can always use more than one shop. BCs are also very easy to work on...
 
I disagree with everybody!!!

Just kidding. All this agreeing on Scubaboard... it just didn't feel right unless something was being rubbed the wrong way.

All fun aside, though, the advice here has all been pretty much on the mark. I've been an instructor with several agencies over the years, mainly out of opportunity and not for any issue with any of them. The approach they all take is similar but not quite the same, with the end result for everybody being the same and that is to train you to be comfortable in the water with the basic skills to take care of yourself in reletively easy conditions. Both agencies you mention are internationally recognized and have very good support. The biggest piece of advice I give people is to take a few minutes to meet and talk to your actual instructor BEFORE you sign up for your class. Just because you have a great rapport with the shop owner, doesn't mean you and the instructor will hit it off. Ask questions such as "is there an extra fee if you have to miss/make up a class" or "what if you need some extra attention and time to get comfortable with skills"? If he doesn't actually work in the shop, is he accessible to answer your questions and address your concerns? Make note of how well you hit it off and how you feel about the instructor at a first impression. Does the instructor seem distracted and unable to offer you the attention you need in the store or does he/she take the time to fully and completely explain everything? Is he/she distracted and "all over the place" or seem to be there for you before you know you need it? Are they genuinly excited about scuba and teaching your class? Keep in mind that once you get to the pool and/or the ocean things only get more stressful and busy for the instructor as your safety is their job. I've seen the nicest instructors you could meet turn into Sgt. Carter (showing my age there) at the pool/ocean.

And none of this is to say that particular instructor is bad or anything, but the biggest thing I've found over the years is that some people, no matter how nice and professional, just don't always click with some people.


As for gear, that opens up a whole can of worms and directions you can go, and none are honestly perfect. You'll need your own personal gear package, ie. fins, mask, snorkel, gloves and boots. I also like to recommend your own hood as it can often be one of the "yuckiest" pieces of gear to rent. After that, you can rent, buy, borrow with each having a different postive/negative. When borrowing gear, you never know that what you get is going to be the correct fit, work as it's supposed to and has been cared for properly. You are basically trusting a friend with your life support equipment. And as many people will scoff at that lable the dive industry uses, the fact is that scuba equipment is indeed life support equipment. The next time you have any doubt about it, take your regulator out of your mouth in 100ft of water and try taking a couple breaths.

Renting gear can be a good way to try different things out (in theory) but keep in mind that most shops around the world purchase inexpensive, entry level gear for their rentals. And before everybody chimes in, notice I said MOST. I know there are stores out there with nicer gear, but in general the most popular rental gear in the world is along the level of a Sherwood Brut, 2 gauge console (maybe a compass) and a Sherwood Silhouette bcd. This level of gear doesn't often give you a great look at the much more convenient, comfortable and feature laden gear a manufacturer has to offer. It's similar in thought to running down to the local car dealer and picking up the most inexpensive Honda Civic on the lot. It gives very little idea what it'd be like to drive the most expensive Acura on the other side of the lot. Another thing to keep in mind is this example. When I took my original Openwater class, the dive shop I used had rental gear from various manufacturers. There was never any heads or tails to what you'd get each time and at that time you could get a horsecollar bcd, with or without a power inflator, and a hardpack or one of those "new fangled" jacket style bcds. It seemed like for the first year I dove I had to get used to a new style of gear everytime I got in the water.

Lastly, purchasing your own set of gear is a great way to go for several reasons, but has it's own pitfalls as well. The advantage is taking your course in the gear you will be using eliminates my last example. You get comfortable with your equipment and it's functions and by the time the class is over you are all set. Another added bonus, if you life in a region where the impromptu dive after work or weekend mornings is a possibility you eliminate the need to spend the time getting gear or trying to be the first at the shop in the morning to get the "good stuff". Granted you may still need a tank fill or rental, but that's not nearly as big a deal in comparrison. On the negative side is knowing what gear you want and deciding what you need as opposed to what you don't. Over all, most dive shops I've visited over the past 30+ years have been honest and don't try to sell you the farm. The problem lies in that if you visit 10 shops, you'll get 10 different opinions on the gear you "need". Take a little time. Read up on the gear. Ask other customers you meet in the shops. Do some research before you buy just like you would for most any other large purchase.

With a little bit of patience and a little research you can quickly be on your way to enjoying scuba for many years!
 
Thanks everyone for your advice. All so helpful. And... I was laughing while reading all the posts... because message board users usually aren't so friendly and agreeable, LOL.

Anyway, I am starting classes on Friday. I'm sure I will have more questions as I go along, haha.

Thanks all.

Tim
 
Gear, from my perspective.

1.) I prefer weight-integrated BCDs over weight belts. If you're chubby, shaped like a bowling pin, and that belt slides down over your gut, it's kind of a straight drop. And I had trouble pivoting while wearing one years ago. They work fine for many people, but I, at least, love weight-integrated.

2.) Tanks - get steel rather than aluminum. Steel is very long-lasting and heavier, so you needed add as much lead weight. If you go for larger capacity, consider low-pressure rather than high-pressure, since high-pressure tanks can put a strain on compressors, and some places won't give you a complete fill in one. From what I understand low-pressure large tanks aren't a whole lot larger/heavier.

3.) Boot(ie)s - My wife & my friend really like the SeaSoft Sunray. Looks & I think feels more like a sneaker & less like some weird-looking sock with a zipper. If they came in size 15's, I'd give you a first hand account.

4.) Dive computer - get one that can handle Nitrox, since it's likely you'll eventually get nitrox certified, especially if Bonaire or a Live-aboard is in your future. Air integrated adds cost but can automatically store pressure data, if you download to a PC logbook program later. Wrist dive computers that are air integrated rely on wireless transmitters. An example is the Oceanic VT3. I was warned if I put a transmitter on a tank, not to use it like a handle when lifting the tank, and that if the tank got knocked over & the thing was hit, it might break. I'm absent minded; I own the transmitter, but I haven't used it. Non-wrist air-integrated dive computers tend to be much like standard consoles, from what I understand; the Oceanic Pro Plus 2.1 (not just 2) is an example.

Try to borrow a dive computer example of each, console & wrist. This is expensive enough you won't want to just run out & buy another one in a few months. Some, like the Oceanic Atom 2.0, can be worn like wrist watches, but I don't want to wear something that expensive (or battery hungry) as a wrist watch, and I like a larger display to read at depth (the VT3 is larger than the Atom 2.0). If you DO like the Atom, wait; an Atom 3.0 is due out soon.

5.) It can be hard to hold a compass level enough to work well. I was told the Sunto wrist compass was pretty good about this, I bought one, and it seems to be better than the console compass I had used. In the past I read a bit online about digital compasses (in dive computers) & people didn't seem all that impressed with them.

6.) Dive lights - if you get one, consider LED. Efficient, long-lasting on batteries, and they don't burn so hot so you can use them on land. Some halogen lights are to be used only underwater due to giving off so much heat. I like the Princeton Tec Miniwave LED version; the Shockwave is larger but holds double the batteries.

7.) Get a tank banger. Especially if you travel & rent tanks, take it with you. And extras. If you happen to run out of air 60 feet down, suddenly realizing your buddy is 15 feet away trying to photograph an uncooperative moray eel while you're freaking out is not going to be fun.

8.) I keep a disposable razor in my logbook to shave the top of my mustache off to get a better mask seal when I dive.

9.) If you get a dive slate, get a smaller model that can be clipped on your wrist or something. You're not going to want a bunch of stuff hanging off you. I've bought 2 dive slates & don't use either.

10.) You're going to need your regulator serviced periodically, so be sure you buy a model that some dive shop in your area will service. There are a number of reputable brands & models; I have an Atomic B2, but I understand ScubaPro & some others are very reputable, too.

11.) Local Dive Shops tend to cost more than online, but supporting them can be worthwhile. A reputable low-price vendor is ScubaToys.com - do mention that you're a Scubaboard.com forum member to get a discount, assuming they still do that. I use them & Scuba.com to get an idea of good prices on equipment, then decide if the local dive shop price is too much higher to stomach. For example, here's their $1165 scuba gear package that includes a Zeagle BCD (Zeagle is a well-regarded brand, although I dive a Sherwood Avid), an Oceanic Pro Plus and some other stuff. No fins & boots, though.

12.) If you're going to dive anywhere there might be fishing line, especially in the ocean, get some EMT shears &/or a dive knife that can cut that line. You know that line they reel in huge, leaping marlins on? You can't snap that with your hands. Entanglement is bad news. Titanium is highly rust resistant albeit expensive, so if you get a dive knife, & you're a little lazy about rinsing & drying off gear, consider titanium a good investment. Oh, and from the forum discussions I believe a dive knife should be small with a blunt tip (so you don't poke something you shouldn't) - don't get some big honking Crocodile Dundee 'short-sword' class dive knife.

Richard.
 
Gear, from my perspective.
1.) I prefer weight-integrated BCDs over weight belts. If you're chubby, shaped like a bowling pin, and that belt slides down over your gut, it's kind of a straight drop. And I had trouble pivoting while wearing one years ago. They work fine for many people, but I, at least, love weight-integrated.

Another option is something like the DUI harness -- it solves the same problem while keeping the BC/tank combo lighter and easier to manage. A bigger deal in cold ocean diving where the amount of weight worn is much higher...
 
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