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Witnesses said that Gabe had to have someone help him put his fins on before the fateful dive, and that he was visibly nervous. ...
Contemplating murder would make me far more nervous than resuming diving after a 12 month (or whatever) hiatus, even as a newish diver.

Plenty of journeyman divers could have swum circles around the skills needed to get his wife to the surface once he saw she was in trouble, even with his mask off briefly (or permanently). Of course, some could have not.

I haven't read all the reportage since the early days - what information of ineptidude, or skill level from any perspective other than dives logged and certs obtained, has come to light?

One of the (many) things that rang so false in his statement was his claim that he thought it better to go for help that was only minutes away, when seconds counted. How does the reportedly liesurely trajectory he followed to the surface comport with the theory that he was a panicky insecure diver so afraid for his own safety that he left his wife while she was drowning? That must have been quite a dramatic, emotional, adrenaline-heightened moment. Doesn't fit, to me.
 
Contemplating murder would make me far more nervous than resuming diving after a 12 month (or whatever) hiatus, even as a newish diver.

Plenty of journeyman divers could have swum circles around the skills needed to get his wife to the surface once he saw she was in trouble, even with his mask off briefly (or permanently). Of course, some could have not.

I haven't read all the reportage since the early days - what information of ineptidude, or skill level from any perspective other than dives logged and certs obtained, has come to light?

One of the (many) things that rang so false in his statement was his claim that he thought it better to go for help that was only minutes away, when seconds counted. How does the reportedly liesurely trajectory he followed to the surface comport with the theory that he was a panicky insecure diver so afraid for his own safety that he left his wife while she was drowning? That must have been quite a dramatic, emotional, adrenaline-heightened moment. Doesn't fit, to me.

Passive panic, not realizing how urgent the situation was, mentally "shutting down", embarrassement at his own ineptitude, feeling like it was already too late, indecision, helplessness, are all reasons off the top of my head, that would explain his slow ascent.
In my previous post I described a rescue that took place with a gentleman(who btw held an AOW cert) who's buddy was nowhere to be seen. After he was rescued, his buddy, his family, the rescuer, and a couple of Instructors asked quite a few questions of him. We essentially talked him out of ever diving again, at least not until he had much more training and time in a pool where he wouldn't breath water in from around the mouthpiece.

His buddy(a family member) claimed that she could not keep up with him during his uncontrolled descent, and she basically just hovered in one spot watching him drop away from her. She said that it was surreal, and she didn't attempt a rescue. She thought he would get it together, and just kind of watched some other diver make contact with him and bring him to the surface.

No one blamed her. Now had he died, perhaps eyes would have turned toward her.

In the Watson case, Gabe seems to have an inability to communicate clearly and to recall the events clearly. He is not an eloquent communicator, and imo not all that bright. Maybe he is bright, but the interviews make me feel that he is a bit dull. The intrigue with this case is that it COULD be murder, but it COULD be a really unfortunate accident.

Maybe Watson's interviews are so inconsistent because he is trying to cover up the fact that he is completely incapable.:idk:
It would be pretty much impossible for me to go to my In-Laws and tell them that their daughter lost her life because I was a complete idiot, panicked, was incompetent, when charged with the resposibility of her well being, I failed to the most extreme.
 
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Wow!!! I am very disappointed that we will never get to see or hear the actual evidence that is in the dive computers.

However, I think that the prosecution got a great result with the plea. I have always maintained that a prosecutor could not establish that Watson did something that "made her dead." And, I don't think the law would support a conviction relative to his being a bad dive buddy.

I would think the prosecutor must have been very convincing and have a great force of personality to get Watson to plead to manslaughter.

Edit: Ignore this post. That ought to teach me not to rely on stuff I see on the internet.

What I should say is that the prosecution should consider itself lucky and skilled if it could persuade Watson to plead guilty even to manslaughter.
 
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edit: sorry that story linked above was old - my bad
 
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Is that new, date says Fri, 5 Jun 2009?
My bad. I got this on an email alert today and failed to notice that it's 2 years old...!

So I guess AL is still in play...??
 
At the risk of kicking up old some controversies, as a lawyer, diver and husband, I have followed this case very closely and discussed it with numerous diver buddies and legal professionals. In response to many of the posts, in my view:

1. In law there is not justice, only evidence. In other words: "Proof, not speculation".
2. Under Australian criminal law, the prosecution likely considered there was not a real chance there was enough evidence to sustain a conviction for murder - as clearly as I can state it, there was not sufficient evidence to establish that Watson either (a) intentionally or deliberately killed Tina, or (b) was recklessly indifferent to the probability that his acts would cause Tina's death.
3. There was, however, sufficient evidence to sustain a conviction that Watson was guilty of manslaughter - that is, he was criminally negligent in that he allowed Tina to die.
4. Thus, Watson's plea of guilty - after taking legal advice from his own counsel - to the lesser charge of manslaughter.

Moving away from the purely legal aspects of this tragedy:

1. I would never leave my wife to drown. Period.
2. I would rather die trying to save her. Period.
3. In the least, I would have got to her and inflated her BCD. Period.
4. If I could not get her BCD inflated, I would have immediately ascended with her - no stops. Period.

I'd do the same for a good buddy and friend. But, I don't know if I'd do the same for a stranger - I might send them up by my SMB - and do any necessary stops first.

Watson didn't get to her. He left her to surely die. He either could not or would not try to save her. Only he knows the truth of that matter.

As for passive panic, incompetence, ineptitude, cowardice or stupidity - apparently and tragically, love does not conquer all.
 
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Moving away from the purely legal aspects of this tragedy:

1. I would never leave my wife to drown. Period.
2. I would rather die trying to save her. Period.
3. In the least, I would have got to her and inflated her BCD. Period.
4. If I could not get her BCD inflated, I would have immediately ascended with her - no stops. Period.

I'd do the same for a good buddy and friend. But, I don't know if I'd do the same for a stranger - I might send them up by my SMB - and do any necessary stops first.

Watson didn't get to her. He left her to surely die. He either could not or would not try to save her. Only he knows the truth of that matter.

As for passive panic, incompetence, ineptitude, cowardice, [-]or [/-]stupidity, or homicidal ideation - apparently and tragically, love does not conquer all.
Edited for completeness.

It would take someone of extreme nature - incompetence, panic-prone, reptilian conscience - to fit the scenario that he chose to let her die in the face of rather mundane circumstances, then calmly turned the dive and proceeded with the rest of his life, that would seem requisite in the "He's just a hapless schmuck who caught a tough break" hypothesis, that I would think if he possessed any of the many failings required to put that together, someone who had seen that about him would have gone public with those observations sometime in the aftermath of the first disposition of the charges.
 
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