Boltsnap breakaways

[Doppler]

The only problem is its tendency to slide down the hose from time to time, off the metal fitting. I don't mind having tried it, but I would be open for a neater suggestion.

Am thinking of getting a few for SM students to try, and putting one on bailout bottle for CCR. Thanks for the feedback.

 

[TSandM]

I can't think of why I would want a breakaway on a Hog setup. I am always going to donate the reg I am breathing, and if another reg is clipped off, I have time to unclip it. If I'm hopelessly entanged around a hose, I can cut the cave line -- but again, I have time to do this.

I can understand the argument for breakaway connections in sidemount, where one may be configured with only one long hose, and that one may be clipped off at the moment someone needs it. But for standard backmount Hog? No.

 

[Doppler]

I can understand the argument for breakaway connections in sidemount, where one may be configured with only one long hose, and that one may be clipped off at the moment someone needs it. But for standard backmount Hog? No.

I agree on both counts... but even with SM, once you have a student committed to the system, a traditional cave-line solution is best. I think the clips MAY be a bit of a time saver during clinics... but not totally convinced.

ON CCR bailout, I currently use snorkel keepers to keep second stages close to the SM OC bottles on either side of me, but am constantly looking for a slightly more secure alternative... I have had a few instances of a scooter of a second stage pulling free at the wrong time.

 

[ajtoady]

If I understand this correctly, you are looking for a secure hold on a reg that can be freed in a moment to be dispatched or used without much effort. My suggestion is do what I do when cutting in a high voltage panel. I hold the new wires out of the way with cheap wire ties. They are not as good as the wire ties with a stainless clip insert, and will open or break with some effort depending on the size. If you find it's to hard you can experiment with the different sizes available.The cheap cable ties or ty-raps as they are called, are the ones usually found in Wal-mart, Lowes, Home Depot, etc. The ones you do not want to use are the ones from Thomas & Betts, those suckers are tough with the stainless insert. I believe the larger T & B ty-raps are the ones use as hand cuffs by law enforcement. If i am off tangent on my interpretation of your application, Sorry.

 

[ferris213]

Thanks everyone for the responses. I dive single tank open water so entanglement is not really a high risk. I can certainly see the disadvantage to using the o ring method now.

I was looking at this from the perspective of having the longhose clipped off, but needing to donate it to an OOA diver. I guess this is not really a problem because the situation should never arise. It sounds like it may be an issue on sidemount, but on backmount it just won't happen. Is this correct?

Thanks again.

 

[laurin]

I was looking at this from the perspective of having the longhose clipped off, but needing to donate it to an OOA diver. I guess this is not really a problem because the situation should never arise. It sounds like it may be an issue on sidemount, but on backmount it just won't happen. Is this correct?

Correct, assuming the rig is being dived as intended.

 

[PfcAJ]

Even if you're diving a stage or a deco bottle, you donate from the mouth since you know it works. Then you can unclip the longhose if you need to and sort out all your business.

 

[DaleC]

Uh... You will never have you long hose clipped off and be breathing you Bungiied B/U?

I understand the conversation but I would never say never. First step to failure.

 

[TSandM]

If you are breathing your backup reg, the dive should have been thumbed, and your buddies know that you are not a resource for donation. The only reason to be on the backup is that the primary has failed. If you are on your backup without being aware of it (!) your buddies should notice, or your team has failed . . .

 

[rhwestfall]

The only reason to be on the backup is that the primary has failed.

Practice??????