Diver died during training Sharm El Sheikh
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watersmurf
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You can find Jeanne Cinquegrana at the scuba shop Outside The Asylum aka OTA Scuba & Swim as it is also known.
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Dear Watersmurf,
Thanks for your post on a 8 year old dead thread. You did forget the most important part of the story though.
Your post implies that Jeanne was the instructor in question that did not train the deceased diver properly which is not true.
As per PADI:
Suzanne Smith, the training director for the Professional Association for Diving Instructors, said “Mr Maybury had undertaken the first part of his course at a swimming pool in London with Lodge Scuba. But it was later discovered that his instructor was not properly qualified and had been dismissed. She said Mr Maybury had also taken a written test, but this had been done unsupervised.”
In a second inquest it was found that the deceased diver not only took his exam unsupervised and his pool session was taught by an unqualified instructor. That pool session was simply an unsanctioned “introductory dive”. Video of the course later revealed that the deceased diver did not do any skills whatsoever in the pool.
Jeanne was simply the referral instructor and this incident happened within the first 10 minutes of the first dive of his referral course while she was still assessing his qualifications.
After spending three days in an Egyptian Jail she was cleared of all wrongdoing and released. Normally these cases take months to resolve and Jeanne was cleared of all wrongdoing in just three days. Anyone who’s been to Egypt knows nothing that has to deal with the Egyptian government happens in three days.
The judges in both inquests in Great Britain apologized for all Jeanne had to endure and commended her for her heroic actions in trying to save the diver in question and for making herself available for questioning to a country that has no legal jurisdiction over Jeanne and her actions in either Egypt or America.
Simon Lodge the owner of Lodge Scuba was expelled from PADI. He and his center are only the 2nd center in 23 years to be expelled from PADI.
We do appreciate you posting our address and phone number. Believe it or not we get more business because of haters like you. No one takes a word you say seriously and I’ve probably done over 100k in business from people that would have shopped with the center you work at but your constant badmouthing actually sent them to us because they obviously didn’t believe you and had to come hear the story from Jeanne.
We know who you are and want you to keep up the great work. Heck if you had more than half a testicle you would come by the shop and get your commission check, by my count we probably owe you at least 7000 dollars!
Thanks for your post on a 8 year old dead thread. You did forget the most important part of the story though.
Your post implies that Jeanne was the instructor in question that did not train the deceased diver properly which is not true.
As per PADI:
Suzanne Smith, the training director for the Professional Association for Diving Instructors, said “Mr Maybury had undertaken the first part of his course at a swimming pool in London with Lodge Scuba. But it was later discovered that his instructor was not properly qualified and had been dismissed. She said Mr Maybury had also taken a written test, but this had been done unsupervised.”
In a second inquest it was found that the deceased diver not only took his exam unsupervised and his pool session was taught by an unqualified instructor. That pool session was simply an unsanctioned “introductory dive”. Video of the course later revealed that the deceased diver did not do any skills whatsoever in the pool.
Jeanne was simply the referral instructor and this incident happened within the first 10 minutes of the first dive of his referral course while she was still assessing his qualifications.
After spending three days in an Egyptian Jail she was cleared of all wrongdoing and released. Normally these cases take months to resolve and Jeanne was cleared of all wrongdoing in just three days. Anyone who’s been to Egypt knows nothing that has to deal with the Egyptian government happens in three days.
The judges in both inquests in Great Britain apologized for all Jeanne had to endure and commended her for her heroic actions in trying to save the diver in question and for making herself available for questioning to a country that has no legal jurisdiction over Jeanne and her actions in either Egypt or America.
Simon Lodge the owner of Lodge Scuba was expelled from PADI. He and his center are only the 2nd center in 23 years to be expelled from PADI.
We do appreciate you posting our address and phone number. Believe it or not we get more business because of haters like you. No one takes a word you say seriously and I’ve probably done over 100k in business from people that would have shopped with the center you work at but your constant badmouthing actually sent them to us because they obviously didn’t believe you and had to come hear the story from Jeanne.
We know who you are and want you to keep up the great work. Heck if you had more than half a testicle you would come by the shop and get your commission check, by my count we probably owe you at least 7000 dollars!
KeelsonGraham
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Great response!Slotus2005
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All I was looking for were posts about the dive shop, maybe a little dirty laundry, and this is what came up. It sucks this happened, but from the article it looks like there was little that could have been done to prevent the accident. Unfortunately, once you get "tagged" like this you just get to deal with it... again. In the world we live in people love to point fingers rather than actually try and address the root causes of incidents, this is unfortunate.
Divers generally seem to be an easy-going lot, so I understand how an instructor referral system could be in place. However, this does expose an instructor to additional liability having a student in open water who they personally never evaluated in the pool first. I am not talking about the stupid legal BS liability, but rather having somebody in open water who is not ready for it yet or may not really be cut out to be a scuba diver in the first place. It seems an instructor, you would not know to say "no thanks" to referrals until something like this happened to them. To be fair to the deceased, nobody really knows how you will handle panic until you are in the situation.
Divers generally seem to be an easy-going lot, so I understand how an instructor referral system could be in place. However, this does expose an instructor to additional liability having a student in open water who they personally never evaluated in the pool first. I am not talking about the stupid legal BS liability, but rather having somebody in open water who is not ready for it yet or may not really be cut out to be a scuba diver in the first place. It seems an instructor, you would not know to say "no thanks" to referrals until something like this happened to them. To be fair to the deceased, nobody really knows how you will handle panic until you are in the situation.
Considering he only posted one thing in a year, based on looking at his content profile, and that was four days after joining, it would appear that his entire reason for joining was simply to denigrate and defame another dive instructor and/or shop. Maybe one should investigate the facts of a case before trying to ruin someone’s reputation and livelihood. That would seem pretty disgraceful, IMHO.
Kudos to HB for the response and clarification. Without having all of the facts on a situation, you tend to be left with speculation, accusation and/or innuendo.
Kudos to HB for the response and clarification. Without having all of the facts on a situation, you tend to be left with speculation, accusation and/or innuendo.
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