Stop steering new divers in North America towards DIN regulators

[2airishuman]

My LDS only stocks DIN ....yoke has no advantages over DIN? I have seen people regret the yoke purchase ....

You're outside North America. In most other parts of the world, DIN is more prevalent.

We have DIN in our family. ... ! I hope DIN is not the new Betamax!

You too are outside North America. No, DIN is the new PAL, technically superior to NTSC but not compatible with anything in North America.

Seen from the east side of the pond, it's more as if yoke is the new 8-track cassette. Or AM radio.

Seen from the west side of the pond, the use of a special larger-size DIN fitting for Nitrox is like the new WMA file with DRM.

I have DIN regs that I use for local NJ diving. I have a yoke reg that I take with me when I travel to the Caribbean.

I never worry about which connections are better or worse. I went to Buddy Divers in Bonaire a few years back with a DIN setup . Bad mistake. Major PITA finding tanks with slugs. Half of those could not be removed. It was no fun. (Yes, I know, I should've taken a yoke-din converter).

This is exactly the problem.

You'd think those dive shops would keep adapters for sale or rent. They don't take up a lot of room and are probably pretty cheap to buy in bulk. Having them for rental would give them the chance to make a little bit more than just tank rental on folks that use their own gear. It's basically free money with no maintenance other than a quick rinse.

They would rather rent regulators.

If I go on vacation, I simply swap the DIN portion on my reg to yoke. Takes a total of 2 mins..

A good approach but not feasible for all regulators or all divers. If the DIN portion of my Conshelf is installed properly, for example, then it takes enough torque to remove it that the regulator body has to be held in place with the threaded service tool that takes the place of one of the hoses. Installation of the yoke portion requires snap ring pliers. Not difficult, but takes more than 2 minutes, requires a clean work environment, and requires two special tools that most divers do not have.

I don't really understand this thread. I have DIN valves but always take a small Scubapro adapter with me to convert to International if required. Else get a DIN insert to convert to DIN if you have International. I have done both in the past. Not difficult.

You're not in North America. Read the opening post. Most new divers, in North America, would have to use the adapter almost every time. They would not enjoy the advantages that a DIN connection would otherwise offer, and for some combinations of diver, tank, BC and reg, the reg may hit them on the back of the head because of the extra length.

 

[Caveeagle]

You too are outside North America. No, DIN is the new PAL, technically superior to NTSC but not compatible with anything in North America.

Get out much? I will grant you that Yoke tanks are more common in most shops/charters, but I have been able to get convertible DIN/Yoke tanks everywhere I have rented in the last year (Florida), and I have purchased Used DIN regs and tanks in both IL and MO within the last 2 years.

To say that DIN is NOT compatible with anything in North America is silly and just inaccurate.

 

[Lorenzoid]

If I go on vacation, I simply swap the DIN portion on my reg to yoke. Takes a total of 2 mins..

Bring your torque wrench. I think HOG has a spec for the yoke nut torque.

 

[Frontpointer1000]

.....bored.

I come to SB to learn things. After 14 pages (ok, I skipped the middle, I couldn't stand it), I've not learned anything. This just sounds like complaining, ranting and whining.

I go diving to leave that all behind.

 

[redacted]

.....bored.

I come to SB to learn things. After 14 pages (ok, I skipped the middle, I couldn't stand it), I've not learned anything. This just sounds like complaining, ranting and whining.

I go diving to leave that all behind.

Yeah, you are clearly too smart for this board. Perhaps you can find somewhere else where all can be happy.

 

[Eric Sedletzky]

Well that's pretty much how it goes around here, they will argue about what color underwear is better, and which one is more "technical" and which one is better for travel.

 

[redacted]

I have not seen many vintage double hose regs in din so I assume yoke was all we had in the beginning. W hat is the history of this din upstart.

 

[divad]

Bring your torque wrench. I think HOG has a spec for the yoke nut torque.

If you believe you need a torque wrench for this, you probably shouldn't be doing it. It's not like a head bolt (on your car).

 

[Doby45]

Bring your torque wrench. I think HOG has a spec for the yoke nut torque.

120-130 in lbs if I remember correctly

 

[Doby45]

If you believe you need a torque wrench for this, you probably shouldn't be doing it. It's not like a head bolt (on your car).

He was being a little tongue in cheek there @evad as we took the HOG class together.