The Observer Effect?

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Tough crowd when it comes to protecting the sand.

This is the video I posted earlier in this thread and it was pointed out that a diver was touching the bottom.


I am all for ocean conservation and protecting wild life, but I think it is possible some are getting a little too strict. I think the divers pee did more harm than his muck stick touching the sand for a split second.

I think that the discussion of the life in the sand is just fascinating. I don't hear anyone shaming anyone else or making judgements of others. We are sharing our individual values and our own personal struggles with the impact we have on the underwater environment. I mean for realz, we often fly to our dive destinations. There is little about our sport that doesn't have an impact in some way or another. There will always be the equivalent of chest thumping meat eaters and apologetic vegans in our approach to our impact on the planet. It takes all kinds to create diversity.
 
Dive the Great Lakes. There are no reefs to worry about. The invasive species are the mussels, not lion fish. But then the cold water probably keeps the number of divers down. ;-)
Yeah, I heard the Zebras have made it to Lake Winnipeg now. Makes you wonder how they made the jump from (perhaps) the west end of L. Superior. Need to get some of those Lionfish hunters up there.
 
Superior has very few mussels from what I've been told.
 
I think that the discussion of the life in the sand is just fascinating. I don't hear anyone shaming anyone else or making judgements of others. We are sharing our individual values and our own personal struggles with the impact we have on the underwater environment. I mean for realz, we often fly to our dive destinations. There is little about our sport that doesn't have an impact in some way or another. There will always be the equivalent of chest thumping meat eaters and apologetic vegans in our approach to our impact on the planet. It takes all kinds to create diversity.

We may even have an effect on the plankton as we swim and drift along. Our bubbles may be over-oxygenating the water.
 
If some of you folks are so concerned about your diving affecting marine life, then why are you still diving in such places? Serious question.
 
Because it calls to us? It says "Ray dive me!" Serious answer.

It is possible to dive without touching anything other than the boat and without disrupting the wildlife. My goal is to learn how to do just that. There is no way I'm going to change the habits of the other 1000s of divers a day out there. I'm not kidding myself. If the coral bleaches and dies then nothing I did was going to matter anyway. If a hurricane comes through and wipes out the reef then protecting it from divers the day before is moot. I dive because of the way it makes me feel. I try to minimize my impact for the same reason.
 
...What is the difference between the sand on the beach and the sand underwater ? You walk on the sand on the beach. You enter the ocean walking on the sand. What do shore divers do ?...

The 2 main reasons for me are...I don't think there is a need to touch the bottom when diving while there is a need to touch the sand when walking on the beach. And I don't want to hurt/alarm critters I can't see especially when it's unnecessary.

In addition, I think it sends a bad message to other divers that it's ok to touch the bottom which is just perpetuating the problem. And I'd prefer to have other divers think I have good buoyancy control. :wink:

If some of you folks are so concerned about your diving affecting marine life, then why are you still diving in such places? Serious question.

Pretty much just existing in this world causes some sort of damage unless I'm going to be a hermit & live off the grid. And I cannot change everything. But I can minimize the damage I do, & I can actively try to make a difference through conservation. I live for warm water diving & dive travel. I could never voluntarily give it up unless I thought I was doing too much damage. (The type of trips & diving I was doing which I thought was causing damage, I have since given up for less invasive diving.) So for me, it's a balance & I try to do the same on land.
 
There's one thing that - AFAIK - hasn't been mentioned so far in this thread, and that's how many visitors a site or an area sees. A lot of my diving is in an area that at most may see a small handful of divers in a year. Some of the sites I dive are probably not dived by anyone else. In places like that, I have no problem with activities that affect the environment somewhat, like touching the sand, stabbing the occasional flounder, wolffish or monkfish, picking as many scallops as I want/need, catching crabs, or just picking up souvenirs. I probably have less impact on the environment than what the normal forces of nature have. If the winter storms can stir up the bottom at several tens of meters' depth, a single diver disturbing the bottom critters probably makes zero difference. And I have no issue leaving biodegradable trash like a little food waste or a few sheets of toilet paper as long as it's left out of sight, say like under a stone. It'll be gone and well into the biological cycle by the next time someone shows up. I am, however, careful to avoid disturbing protected or endangered species, or doing things that have a permanent or long-term impact on the environment.

OTOH, when I dive close to town or on a vacation abroad, on sites that I know - or suspect - sees a fair bunch of divers every year, I follow the "take only pictures, leave only bubbles" slogan. Because if I - and many others - behaved the same way on a frequently visited site as I do on a remote site, the impact on the environment would quickly become unacceptable.

"Sola dosis facit venenum"
 
Do you think destinations like Cozumel should start putting limits on numbers of divers and boats on reefs? If so, how would it be enforced?

... by putting limits on the numbers of dive ops and boats ... which would require some sort of licensing in order to do business there ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
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It is possible to dive without touching anything other than the boat and without disrupting the wildlife. My goal is to learn how to do just that. There is no way I'm going to change the habits of the other 1000s of divers a day out there. I'm not kidding myself. If the coral bleaches and dies then nothing I did was going to matter anyway. If a hurricane comes through and wipes out the reef then protecting it from divers the day before is moot. I dive because of the way it makes me feel. I try to minimize my impact for the same reason.

It's kind of fun to dive that way--to at least think you might be making a difference. If another diver in the group touches something because he lacks the control, I never say anything, but I admit sometimes feeling a little smug.

At least as big an issue as hordes of divers touching things, and which was probably mentioned in earlier in this thread, is sunscreen from those hordes of divers.
 

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