Cannot find a reason for AOW certification

[stuartv]

Are you including technical diving in the recreational category?

Well, it is...

 

[admikar]

As a matter of fact, there are agencies like TDI that certify recreational divers to much greater depths than 130'.

Bob

OK, like @HantsDiver said, different agencies-different depths. My post that was quoted was an answer to @stuartv post on limits pushed on by his shop.
BTW, like I said I am currently certified to 180'.

Rob legally means within the law. There is no law that I am aware of that limits the depth a diver can go. You can just as legally dive to 300 feet if you want. There is no legal requirement to even be certified. What you refer to as LEGAL is just a recommendation from a standards organization. It does not have the force of law.

Exactly what I'm trying to say, thank you.

 

[boulderjohn]

We are talking vocabulary here. Many and perhaps most people use the word "recreational" to refer diving which is not technical. I realize that some people do not use the word that way and feel superior to people who do.

 

[divad]

We are talking vocabulary here. Many and perhaps people use the word "recreational" to refer diving which is not technical. I realize that some people do not use the word that way and feel superior to people who do.

I'm flabbergasted.

 

[Jerome O'Neil]

I looks like I guessed right

About what year was your AOW card issued?

1997, maybe? That is about the last time I saw it, too.

 

[Bob DBF]

NAUI's definition of technical diving states: "Technical diving is a form of scuba diving that exceeds the typical recreational limits imposed on depth and immersion time (bottom time)."

It is recreational not professional, military, scientific, public safety. It is taught by recreational agencies as a continuation into mixed gas and deco diving. Prior to '91 technical diving did not exist as it does now, it was a number of different advanced diving done by cave, wreck, deco and other specialized parts of the recreational dive community.

The difference between basic diving (NDL) and advanced (deco, as Nitrox and mixed gas were not available whe I was involved) was looked at as a progression in recreational diving, not as a completely different type of diving.


Bob

 

[Jerome O'Neil]

Well, it makes sense that you know what you're dong when it comes to your dives. However, it is nice to say that you can LEGALLY go past 60 feet. Also, there are things that you can do as a rescue diver/dive master that you can't do as just an open water diver. As an example, you can't dive as a volunteer in an aquarium, or at least my local aquarium, until you reach the rank of rescue diver. Plus, other divers will take you more seriously. Keep in mind, I'm 15 and these are just my opinions.
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I can LEGALLY go to whatever depth I chose, as can anyone else, regardless of what it says on their card.

Here's a hint that will help you out as you dive more frequently. If other divers only take you seriously because you carry a particular "rank" (ha!) of card, don't dive with them.

 

[scubadada]

I can LEGALLY go to whatever depth I chose, as can anyone else, regardless of what it says on their card.

Here's a hint that will help you out as you dive more frequently. If other divers only take you seriously because you carry a particular "rank" (ha!) of card, don't dive with them.

Diving with someone who feels they have no depth limit may have drawbacks also.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

If you accept someone into a course, and they behave during that course, you can not say: sorry, but I don't think I should give you a card. They obeyed standards. Standards you should obey too. But if you know they are wild cards, you have right to refuse to teach them, and no one can call standards violation on you for that.

Different agencies have different standards. The one I taught for has what they called a "loved one standard", which means if you as the instructor would not feel comfortable having this student dive with someone you loved, then you should not certify them, even if they successfully completed the agency's course curriculum.

One common misconception in scuba training is that you are paying for a certification. That is not the case. You're paying for the training. You have to earn the certification.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[JamesBon92007]

NAUI's definition of technical diving states: "Technical diving is a form of scuba diving that exceeds the typical recreational limits imposed on depth and immersion time (bottom time)."

It is recreational not professional, military, scientific, public safety. It is taught by recreational agencies as a continuation into mixed gas and deco diving. Prior to '91 technical diving did not exist as it does now, it was a number of different advanced diving done by cave, wreck, deco and other specialized parts of the recreational dive community.

The difference between basic diving (NDL) and advanced (deco, as Nitrox and mixed gas were not available whe I was involved) was looked at as a progression in recreational diving, not as a completely different type of diving.
Bob

OK, so what is the definition of "recreational limits?" Anything that does not include deco dives, cave diving, wreck penetration, and non-OW? Would you call the inclusion of those activities "advanced" or "technical?"