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I do around 5ish dives a year with a buddy who usually gets my long hose donated to him. He does not dive often to the point that I am pretty sure he hasn't done a dive in the last 3 years without me so his air consumption is crap while my consumption is fairly decent. If I am loaning him my AL80s it means we are going out for a 3 tank day and I usually wear my big doubles with 240ft^3 (all the air in the world) and we go play. If he gets down under 1,700psi while we have lots of NDL bottom time left I hand off my long hose and he uses that for 10-15 minutes and then goes back to his gear.

Best case/common scenario is we get to hang out deeper for longer where there are more fun things to look at. Worst case is I suffer a catastrophic 1st or 2nd stage loss which isn't a huge deal as I would follow standard shutdown drills to kill off the offending post and he would revert back to his gear then I would either switch to or stow my primary long hose depending on what failed.

At no point is the option for either of us to use any of the 4 second stage regs we are carrying off the table and we get to play for longer.
 
My wife and I were diving the USS Kittywake about 2 years ago in the Grand Cayman Islands. We had been through the wreck and were “topside” observing some fish and some small turtles when the DM slid between us and took my wife’s secondary regulator. We completed the dive normally with 3 minute safety stop.

Once the dive was finished, the DM explained he grabbed the wrong tank and his mistake he didn’t check the pressure before submerging.

It was a non event really.

Glenn
 
I've had three occasions to share air with other divers.
The first time: was off Anacapa island in the channel islands off of California. At a depth of 20 meter(60 feet) a diver emerged ( viz about 15 feet) spun, faced me and made the OOA sign. I offered her my primary, grabbed her BC strap and we we began a controlled assent. I have used a second reg, bungeed around my neck for decades. I can simply lower my head and pick it up in my mouth.
At 15 feet, I wanted to stop and deco. She broke off and shot to the surface. Later, on the boat she said that she got lost and a combo of the cold water(temp 52 degrees) disorientation, low viz scared her and her rate of breathing accelerated. She said she was just to frightened too finish the deco stop.

Second time: I was diving in the Bahamas and I noticed diver below me( I was at 100 feet) on the wall struggling. Her inflator hose had become disconnected at the shoulder on her BC. She kept inflating and sinking. When I got to her we were at 140. I dropped in front of her, and offered my primary. I was using a five foot hose. She took it. I dropped her weight belt and we began to ascend. We had to swim about 100 yards to the anchor line. Ascending, my challenge was to add and dump air to retain neutral buoyancy for both. Once at the line she was able to pull her self up. We were still tethered. My tank pressure gauge was in the red. There was a deco bottle hanging at 10 feet and she switch off to it.
My buddy who had stuck with me but prudently remained about 10 feet from us, assessed the situation, ascended and notified the boat crew to drop another deco tank which they did. All was well that ended well. The diver had no idea that here inflator hose had become disconnected. The cable that runs through the hose was still connected to the pin but the seal on the BC was broken. She kept adding air but in vain. It just created a bubble blast that she never saw. Those bubbles are what caught my attention. I was grateful for my buddy. I have no idea where hers was or if even if she had one.

Third time:
I was diving in the Indian Ocean off of the island of Zanzibar. There were five of us in a "group dive" accompanied/led by a DM. We were about 30 minutes into a planned 45 minute dive at about 10 meters when the diver to my right and a little ahead of me went from a prone position to an almost up right and began struggling. I swam in his direction.
He had that panic look and his eyes seemed to fill his mask. I offered him my primary( 40 inch hose. I always bring my own reg and mask when ever I travel and my travel rig has a 40 inch primary). He took it and we agreed to make an ascent. The DM swam back, assessed and hovered with us. The other divers followed her and we all ascended safely and waited for the boat to pick us up. The diver stated that he just used more air than he thought he would.

Sorry to have been perhaps long winded. The take aways for me were: If you dive with a buddy, be a buddy and stick with your buddy. Always, DO a predive equipment check. There is a tendency in boat diving to empty BC's before jumping in order to get down, especially in swells and currents. Finding out you BC wont inflate at depth is the wrong time to discover that.
In all three of the situations in which I was involved, a dive axiom came to mind: all dive problems solve easier on the surface than at depth. Some dive problems, that involve the additional challenges of ceilings, real or artificial require solving where you are. I have had several of those issues myself. But that is why redundancy is advocated. And my last offering is: know your SACR and note how depth, conditions, and temperature affect it. Safe diving and don't skip the deco stops.
I was sharing these events with my buddy who reminded me that he shared air with me. I was diving the Corridor off Palm beach when he came up from behind me, grabbed my reg in one hand and gave me a thumb to ascend. On the boat we discovered one of my second stage hoses had begun to unravel from the port on the first stage. I was diving a zeagle 1st and second and its LP hose orifice accommodated a slightly larger diameter LP hose fitting than most reg LP ports. I had just had this reg serviced before our trip. We we discover back on the boat was that the O ring used on the LP fitting was not the right size for the larger hose. It was too small and had be apparently just stretched over the hose end fitting. What happened at depth was that the smaller O ring contracted, allowing for the gas under pressure, thus escaping at the port of the first stage, to twist the second stage hose without resistance. It was literally unwinding itself from the first stage. My buddy saw the rate of escaping bubbles and by clamping the first and second stage with his hand and signaling to ascend saved me from a very bad day. I found a deferent LDS.
 
Never been OOA or had to share air. But in two occasions when I was diving with DMs that I did not know in new locations, I signaled LOA (50 bars). They signaled back Ok and continued the dive, still stopping to see critters or whatever. In both cases, I ended the dive with between 20 and 40 bars and I was pretty much pissed off. I don't care if we are shallow and close to the exit point. At 50 bars, we end the dive. Period. I am so into this rule that unless the surface conditions are really bad, I would deploy my DSMB, surface and swim to wherever I need to exit.
 
Never been OOA or had to share air. But in two occasions when I was diving with DMs that I did not know in new locations, I signaled LOA (50 bars). They signaled back Ok and continued the dive, still stopping to see critters or whatever. In both cases, I ended the dive with between 20 and 40 bars and I was pretty much pissed off. I don't care if we are shallow and close to the exit point. At 50 bars, we end the dive. Period. I am so into this rule that unless the surface conditions are really bad, I would deploy my DSMB, surface and swim to wherever I need to exit.
Did you cover the air plan with your guide?
One time in the Philippines, I had a guide who did deep stops and wanted to surface with less than 30bar. They only tried that on me once, because they found themselves alone on the bottom. The guide was a newly qualified BSAC Sports Diver and didn't understand what deep stops were, but had heard about them. The surfacing with 30bar or less was the result of tourist divers (mainly US) wanting to maximise their time underwater. As the paying guests he obliged. For the rest of my trip we surface with >50bar.
 
Did you cover the air plan with your guide?
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No, usually we say, let's communicate when one of us reach the turning point pressure or when we reach 100 bars but we rarely mention 50 bars as it should not happen. One of those two DMs even lectured me after the dive saying that the low pressure was bad for the cylinder. I told him that I had signaled LOA but he kept diving for 15 minutes. Makes me wonder if he understood when I put my closed fist on my breast (Maybe he thought it was Ave Cesar just like in the ancient Rome). I should have signaled with five fingers.
 
No, usually we say, let's communicate when one of us reach the turning point pressure or when we reach 100 bars but we rarely mention 50 bars as it should not happen. One of those two DMs even lectured me after the dive saying that the low pressure was bad for the cylinder. I told him that I had signaled LOA but he kept diving for 15 minutes. Makes me wonder if he understood when I put my closed fist on my breast (Maybe he thought it was Ave Cesar just like in the ancient Rome). I should have signaled with five fingers.
And what is the closed fist on the chest supposed to mean, it’s not a recognised signal. You should run through the major signals as part of the pre-dive brief.
 
And what is the closed fist on the chest supposed to mean, it’s not a recognised signal. You should run through the major signals as part of the pre-dive brief.
Yes, it is.
 

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Yes, it is.

First time I see the fist on the chest. The fist, on the other hand, has the meaning of "stop", but it is not necessary to do it on the chest.

Never been OOA or had to share air. But in two occasions when I was diving with DMs that I did not know in new locations, I signaled LOA (50 bars). They signaled back Ok and continued the dive, still stopping to see critters or whatever. In both cases, I ended the dive with between 20 and 40 bars and I was pretty much pissed off. I don't care if we are shallow and close to the exit point. At 50 bars, we end the dive. Period. I am so into this rule that unless the surface conditions are really bad, I would deploy my DSMB, surface and swim to wherever I need to exit.

Is LOA always equal to 50bars for you and the DM?
 
First time I see the fist on the chest. The fist, on the other hand, has the meaning of "stop", but it is not necessary to do it on the chest.



Is LOA always equal to 50bars for you and the DM?
In my book, LOA means 50 bars. It means we end the dive. On the other end, if one has less than that, it might be better to signal OOA.
Now, I understand your point. In all my courses, this signal was understood but if it is not universal, there might be a problem.
 
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