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Are Suunto Zoops super conservative?

Discussion in 'Computers, Gauges, Watches and Analyzers' started by Alex Locke, Aug 27, 2017.

  1. Umuntu

    Umuntu Divemaster

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    Vyper Novo with AI as the primary. A Zoop tied to harness as a backup.

    I gave my sons Zoops when they certified as young teenagers. There is a level of trust with the conservatism that means you can trust it with your kids.

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  2. Umuntu

    Umuntu Divemaster

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    If one particular algorithm was, at the margins which produce incidents, involved in a significant proportion of incidents ... that would be useful information to have.

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  3. BRT

    BRT not a soft touch ScubaBoard Supporter

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    And based on the same data I will continue using them.
     
  4. Steve_C

    Steve_C Great White Rest in Peace

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    Conservatism of and by itself does not necessarily mean safer. Driving 45 instead of 60 on the freeway may be more conservative but unless there are other factors such as weather it is not any safer.
     
  5. dmaziuk

    dmaziuk Regular of the Pub

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    :rofl3: You really don't have a slightest clue how math actually works do you? Numbers: there's like a lot of them and stuff...
     
  6. loady

    loady Angel Fish

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    I love all the comradeship here. Almost as friendly as YouTube and Facebook political comments! :rant:
    You guys would be great fun on a dive boat!! ;-)
     
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  7. scubadada

    scubadada Diver Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Another attempt to look at the spectrum of decompression algorithms. I took the departure NDLs from each of the depths included in the 4 simulated dives included in the 2017 ScubaLab test I referenced in post #151, 11 New Dive Computers Tested By ScubaLab In 2017. Too bad Suunto did not have a computer tested, but, Mares and Cressi did. Buhl 16 ADT is the Scubapro deco algorithm.

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  8. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Please tell me what you think "arrival" and "departure" NDLs means in their data set.
    Should I interpret your presentation of their results to mean that (for example, Dive 1, 100 ft) the NDLs are 7-13 minutes, depending on the computer? Why in the linked article do they say "Meant to simulate a day of scuba diving, the profiles were: 100 feet/55 minutes; a one-hour surface interval; 70 feet/45 minutes; a two-hour surface interval; 80 feet/45 minutes; a one-hour surface interval; and 60 feet/40 minutes." I read that as the first dive was 55 minutes to 100 ft. ?? But the NDLs were 7-13 minutes? Help.
     
  9. Umuntu

    Umuntu Divemaster

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  10. dmaziuk

    dmaziuk Regular of the Pub

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    I am beginning to believe computer-generated NDLs are a cargo cult. They're soooo adorable with their coloured powerpoints with all those dots and lines and digits on the sides...
     

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