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Boat ladders and upper body v leg strength

Discussion in 'Women's Perspectives' started by Kimela, Aug 30, 2020.

  1. shoredivr

    shoredivr Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: Ontario
    I posted this in the thread, because I love this dive boat and its twin Xmas tree ladders and well thought out handrail placement:

    “Yes I have noticed the ladder spaces/handrails issue too. Some people designing the ladders don’t seem to think about diver height. It’s not all about strength, it’s also about reach. But let’s thump on about fitness.”

    “The best boats I’ve been on have easily accessible hand grabs/rails. In this example, photo taken by a buddy, there’s red vertical outside rails on the swim platform on the port and starboard sides, and the centre silver rail the diver is holding on to. All rails are easy to reach from any step.”

    “Once all the divers are out of the water, the centre silver rail is removed and stowed before the gate is closed. The person who designed this thought about short divers, tall divers, all divers. I can make it up this ladder in doubles, singles and sidemount.”

    “Still promoting the lift idea to prevent bubble shunting though.”

    *Edit: the boat is the AMG out of Waupoos, Ontario, now owned by ABUCS SCUBA in Brockville Ontario. The guy who designed this is Wayne Green, as far as I know.

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  2. Ana

    Ana Solo Diver

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: Pompano Beach, FL
    With the caveat that the world during and after the pandemic is weird.

    You really need to take your time before making reservations with a charter. There's their equipment on one side but also their routine is important.
    I started developing a list of questions to ask before giving out my credit card #.

    Then it got to a point that I felt the need to exchange waivers with the charter, I sign yours but you sign mine too. That's when I realized the charter world evolved in a way that I couldn't handle anymore, maybe I became the "get off my lawn" type of old fart but in any case ... Ask away, the more information you have in advance the better. Ask here and ask them directly. Even if you accept something less than optimal at least you can prepare instead of being surprised and potentially ruining your diving day.

    I know lifts in the US are an issue but any commercial boat that has divers as their only customers should have a ladder that is friendly for the average customer.
    I doubt the average customer walks 2 miles a day, just a guess based on what I see in the charters around my area.
  3. Gareth J

    Gareth J Manta Ray

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: UK
    Whilst we may have a bit of a moan about the BSAC in the UK. One of the great benefits is it is lobbying on our behalf.
    I doubt that the American diving community have one group that is lobbying to the same extent with the same level of access to government agencies as the BSAC does in the UK.
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  4. Gareth J

    Gareth J Manta Ray

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: UK
    I whilst I respect and support a "women's perspectives" subforum. Most of what is being discussed in this thread relates to the health, safety and well being of divers, ALL divers. Irrespective of their sex, sexual persuasion, or gender identity. As such, all groups should be positively encouraged to engage and contribute.
    There is an old phrase, divide and conquer, by separating divers into sub groups you weaken our voice, especially on points that relate to safety.
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  5. chillyinCanada

    chillyinCanada ScubaBoard Supporter Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

    Twas merely a reminder my friend:

    Pinned post header for Women's Perspectives subforum:

    Welcome to the Women's Perspectives Forum!

    This is a forum where our female members are welcome to talk about ideas, concerns, and anything surrounding diving that their male counterparts - and some women as well - may not experience or care about. While participation in this forum by any of our members is not excluded, we ask that everyone recognize that this forum is a NO TROLL ZONE devoted to subjects that primarily concern female divers. As such, we ask that all participation be confined to civil discussion of the posted topics without questioning the need for the topic or forum itself.

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  6. NothingClever

    NothingClever Manta Ray

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Red Sea and Atlantic Ocean
    Hah! I love this and totally get it.
  7. Kimela

    Kimela Manta Ray

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: St Louis
    Just don't be surprised if we start talking about 'female problems' - we're bound to break out with those types of discussions without any prior warning! :wink:
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  8. The Chairman

    The Chairman Chairman of the Board

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: Cave Country!
    Ask for a rope on that Christmas tree ladder. It really helps.
  9. Gareth J

    Gareth J Manta Ray

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: UK
    Well, if it helps us improve the dive trip experience for our female branch members, bring it on.
    Although in fairness to them, none of them are 'shrinking violets'.They are not shy about putting the rest of us right when we step out of line, or pointing out where we could do better.
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