Tigerman
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The arch freedive video is actually a very good example of both how insanely good some freedivers can be as well as the gear you SHOULD have for a dive like the Dahab blue hole arch (and beyond).
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If your profile is correct, you should not even consider it without quite a bit more experience and training. The arch is, if I remember correctly, at about 180 feet. That makes it a trimix dive (if you want to remember what you experienced afterward) on doubles, and preferably a deco bottle of EAN50. Sure, there are plenty of people who do it on a single tank, using air ... and many of them are still down there. They gambled and lost.
Going deep is easy ... it's coming back to the surface that's the tricky part. If you want to go that's great ... set it as a long-term goal and work to develop the skills and experience to do it properly. Deep dives are alluring ... and a lot of people take shortcuts. As long as nothing goes wrong, you'll probably end the dive OK. But we don't train for everything to go right ... we train for how to deal with things going wrong. And that's really rather the point. If something goes wrong that deep, bolting to the surface isn't an option ... you'll be dead long before you get there.
EastEndDiver gave you very good advice ... slow down. The Blue Hole will still be there when you've attained the skills to dive it safely.
... Bob (Grateful Diver)
Remy,
Who did you do your deep dives with?
Who is/was your instructor? Karel or Alex?
You know people didnt come back from the dive that you want to do your 50mtr wreck dive? ( I assume its the wreck at vearssenbaai)
Do you know that you sound exactly like those people?
Do you know that you sound like 99% of the people that decide to die while diving on Curacao?
FFS stop planning on killing yourself.........
Can you show me where I said that I wanted to try that dive with my little experience or with a lot of experience, even If I get to the point of technical diving, I don't see the point of looking at sand and rocks.
I just posted, as an awareness post for the ruckies like me so they can see what happen with what I believe it is a unsafe dive, again that is my perspective of that dive thru the arch, and exposed that I didn't understand what they were trying to do with one tank at 53m on top that they needed to swem across 26m tunel.
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Can you show me where I said that I wanted to try that dive with my little experience or with a lot of experience, even If I get to the point of technical diving, I don't see the point of looking at sand and rocks.
I just posted, as an awareness post for the ruckies like me so they can see what happen with what I believe it is a unsafe dive, again that is my perspective of that dive thru the arch, and exposed that I didn't understand what they were trying to do with one tank at 53m on top that they needed to swem across 26m tunel.
In the videos and reports it say there can be currents in the arch, read CAN, so with my poor and inexperience planning and diving, I will take in account that always there is current, at least I believe it will be better to plan a dive like that taking in account current, that not taking it in account, but that is just my perspective.
Remy, I think the reason some of us questioned your motivation for posting this thread about the Blue Hole because we were familiar with your other recent thread, strongly implying that you intended to incur what you consider small deco obligations without getting the formal training normally expected of "deco divers."
I am a recreational diver, so I don't have much to say on the latter subject or on the Blue Hole. But the fact that you've started a total of, what, two threads since joining SB, the second one relating to a deep dive site that has claimed numerous lives, led me to leap to the conclusion you have some sort of morbid fascination with deep or otherwise advanced dives.
I still don't completely understand the new diver's (and you're not the first) fascination with deep dives or incurring deco obligations, but I think at this point you have made it clear that you don't intend to do any of this without obtaining the proper training. If that's correct, then I agree others should back off now. Your earlier posts in the other thread were ambiguously worded--it seemed that you kept saying you felt you would be capable of exceeding the recreational no-deco limits at your level of experience and without any formal instruction. Apparently our understanding was mistaken.
The cautions you're receiving are well-intentioned. As noted, this particular site tends to attract people who have no business being there ... and several of them never came back. That, in itself, should be something you factor into your dive plan ...
... Bob (Grateful Diver)
the divers graveyard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFGYJ1KYLYM
the divers graveyard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFGYJ1KYLYM
... more strange there is experienced people doing it, I only have over 3 hands full of dives and with 5min of gathering info I already knew it is not doable with one tank, aftee looking at that documentary I will say it is not doable without trimix, to my perspective of what I considere safe.
...if you can handle the narcosis in a safe manner.Air at 50m is still doable...