Deep dives on air?

[Bennno]

@KNDiver
So, you ignore any questions from people (who wanted to help you), yet you demand an answer to your question, huh?
Gotta love that!

If you don't wanna 'talk' to anyone, I suggest you learn how to use google.

 

[Storker]

Thank you, but there is no dept limit to the standard .Diving Classes only at the Trimix classes etc.

I see you didn't actually read the documents I linked to.

 

[KNDiver]

@KNDiver
So, you ignore any questions from people (who wanted to help you), yet you demand an answer to your question, huh?
Gotta love that!

If you don't wanna 'talk' to anyone, I suggest you learn how to use google.

Ehh sorry??? Iam not home writting from a phone which changes all my words, so its difficult to write alot at the moment.

 

[KNDiver]

I see you didn't actually read the documents I linked to.

Yes I have, and I have read the standards for CMAS 3 and they do not write a dept limit, they only refer to the national recommendations.

 

[Storker]

Yes I have, and I have read the standards for CMAS 1/2/3

If I were you, I'd demand a refund for my tuition fee. Because it seems as if your reading abilities are somewhat lacking.

Standard 2.A.5 / BOD no 193 (05-05-2016)
CMAS One Star Diver

4. Competencies of a certified CMAS One Star Diver
4.1 A CMAS One Star Diver shall be trained such that when assessed by a CMAS Instructor, he shall
be deemed to have sufficient knowledge, skill and experience to procure air, equipment, and other
diving services and to plan, conduct, and log open-water dives that do not require mandatory inwater
decompression stops, without the supervision of a CMAS Instructor or CMAS Dive Leader,
when properly equipped and accompanied by another certified diver of at least the same level,
provided the diving activities undertaken, the diving conditions and the diving area are similar, equal
or better to those in which training was received.
4.2 A CMAS One Star Diver is qualified to dive within the following parameters:
4.2.1 To use air as a breathing gas;
4.2.2 To make dives which do not require mandatory in-water decompression stops;
4.2.3 To make dives during normal daylight hours;
4.2.4 To dive in environments where direct vertical access to the surface is possible;
4.2.5 To dive only when appropriate support is available at the surface; and
4.2.6 To dive under conditions that are equal or better than the conditions in which he was
trained.
4.3 If he has received additional training he can dive to dive to a recommended maximum depth of
twenty (20) meters with other SCUBA divers of the same level.


Standard 2.A.6/ BOD no 183 ( 08-03-2013 )
CMAS Two Stars Diver

4. Competencies of a certified CMAS Two Star Diver
4.1 A CMAS Two Star Diver shall be trained such that when assessed by a CMAS Instructor,
he shall be deemed to have sufficient knowledge, skill and experience to procure air,
equipment, and other diving services and to plan, conduct, and log advanced open-water
dives that do not require mandatory in-water decompression stops, without the supervision
of a CMAS Instructor or CMAS Dive Leader, when properly equipped and accompanied by
another certified diver of at least the same level, provided the diving activities undertaken,
the diving conditions and the diving area are similar, equal or better to those in which
training was received.
4.2 A CMAS Two Star Diver may dive with a One Star Diver in sheltered shallow water
4.3 A CMAS Two Star Diver is qualified to dive within the following parameters unless he has
received additional training or is accompanied by a Dive Leader on any open water dive:
4.1.1 To dive to a maximum recommended depth of forty (40) metres with other SCUBA
divers of the same level;
4.1.2 To only use air as a breathing gas, unless he is certified to use other breathing gas
mixtures;
4.1.3 To make dives which do not require mandatory in-water decompression stops;
4.1.4 To participate in night diving activities;
4.1.5 To dive in environments where direct vertical access to the surface is possible.
(Aquatic plants are not considered an overhead obstruction);
4.1.6 To dive only when appropriate support is available at the surface;
4.1.7 To dive under conditions that are equal or better than the conditions in which he was
trained.

Standard Number: 2.D.7 / BOD no 183 (08-03-2013)
CMAS Three Stars Diver

4. Competencies of a certified CMAS Three Star Diver
4.1 A CMAS Three Star Diver shall be trained such that, when assessed by a CMAS Instructor, he
shall be deemed to have a professional level knowledge of diving theory, solid rescue skills, dive
management and supervision abilities, exemplary diving skills and sufficient diving experience to
plan, organise and conduct open water diving activities and lead other recreational sport divers in
open water on both guided and organised dives in a safe and competent manner.
4.2 A CMAS Three Star Diver is qualified:
4.2.1 To carry out a risk assessment on a suggested dive location and conditions and to
determine its safety:
4.2.2 To conduct any sport diving activities including Stage Stop decompression diving;
4.2.3 To conduct any specialised sport diving activities for which he has received appropriate
training;
4.2.4 To plan and execute emergency procedures appropriate for the diving environment and
activities;
4.2.5 To act as an instructional assistant to a CMAS Instructor by controlling students and
improving safety. The CMAS Three Star Diver is however not qualified to assess or
teach any skills or knowledge to any participant on a CMAS Diver Training Programme.

 

[KNDiver]

If I were you, I'd demand a refund for my tuition fee. Because it seems as if your reading abilities are somewhat lacking.

Standard Number: 2.D.7 / BOD no 183 (08-03-2013)
CMAS Three Stars Diver

4. Competencies of a certified CMAS Three Star Diver
4.1 A CMAS Three Star Diver shall be trained such that, when assessed by a CMAS Instructor, he
shall be deemed to have a professional level knowledge of diving theory, solid rescue skills, dive
management and supervision abilities, exemplary diving skills and sufficient diving experience to
plan, organise and conduct open water diving activities and lead other recreational sport divers in
open water on both guided and organised dives in a safe and competent manner.
4.2 A CMAS Three Star Diver is qualified:
4.2.1 To carry out a risk assessment on a suggested dive location and conditions and to
determine its safety:
4.2.2 To conduct any sport diving activities including Stage Stop decompression diving;
4.2.3 To conduct any specialised sport diving activities for which he has received appropriate
training;
4.2.4 To plan and execute emergency procedures appropriate for the diving environment and
activities;
4.2.5 To act as an instructional assistant to a CMAS Instructor by controlling students and
improving safety. The CMAS Three Star Diver is however not qualified to assess or
teach any skills or knowledge to any participant on a CMAS Diver Training Programme.

Wow what a nice comment, is must be very difficult for you to write "nice" to other people. If you see my question I ‘am referring to deep dives around 40-50 meters on air not below. And there is no depth limit for CMAS 3, unless they mean with "any sport Diving activity" you can dive to any depth you feel.

 

[Remy B.]

Look at the Extended Range course content from TDI,

The limit is normally dictated by the sanity of the diver or the 1.4ppo, where it will be good that you take a camera with you because you will not remember much of what you saw at that depth.

 

[Peter69_56]

TDI teach diving on air to 55m on air and below that training is on Trimix

 

[Richard Tomlinson]

Yes, the French FFESSM teaches down to 60m on air - but you have to have equivalent to DM on the surface.

The deepest without top cover is 40m.

http://www.ffessm.fr/ckfinder/userfiles/files/ctn/Memento-plongeur/04-Niveau3-memento-plongeurs.pdf

 

[shoredivr]

I wonder how having a DM on the surface will help anything going on below 40m though....