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Divers Riding Whale Shark

Discussion in 'Marine Science and Physiology' started by Jack Hammer, Aug 15, 2018.

  1. yle

    yle Instructor, Scuba

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    I'm curious about your obsession with single use water bottles. You keep coming back to that...
     
  2. yle

    yle Instructor, Scuba

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    And you have no evidence that it does not cause harm. But you're still willing to assume that it does.

    What it comes down to is this: whether or not it causes harm (because we don't know, right?)...

    WHY DO IT?

    Tell us about your motivation for "interacting" with marine life? I think it's pretty obvious from all the responses you've elicited that there are a lot of people here who would like to understand what motivates you to touch animals and defend others that do the same.
     
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  3. EastEndDiver

    EastEndDiver Captain

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    I think if you want to ride a shark while holding it's dorsal fin you should practice on Tiger sharks before working up to a Whale shark
     
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  4. Sam Miller III

    Sam Miller III Scuba Legend Scuba Legend

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    It is often said "There is nothing worse than a reformed drunk...." In our modern generation of "divers" it may be said "There is nothing worse than a reformed spearfisherman." I am not certain if I am reformed or not - I still have 5 trusty Spear guns leaning against my desk at the ready in case a fish swims 600 feet up a California hill and begs to be stuck...

    One thing I am very positive about is conservation of the marine life that remains in the wild. I have had a very long ancillary career in recreational and professional diving. I have experienced the slow, some times rapid decline of our marine life, both on the inshore reefs and in blue water environment.

    The attitude of many of you towards marine life defies pure logic- destroy what provides pleasure.

    Some of you will be honored with a lot of breaths and heart beats and will possibly live to be 70-80 - or even 90. Then you cam take your grand children and great grandchildren to an aquarium to see the last sea urchin remining in the world-

    I am reattaching post #108 -- forget the preamble verbiage read the bold print . We will all agree Hans Hass was a very brave diver to swim with a Whale shark.- 70 plus years ago..

    No need to prove how brave you are by duplicating Dr.Hass's ride -- let them alone !

    It is sunny California morning headed to beach to hang with long boarders

    'SDM




    "I have a friend who teaches a Library Science Research course at Cal Poly University San Luis Obispo in California.
    One of his first assignments is for the students to visit the library and research a particular subject. The majority ignore the instructions and go directly to Google which contains incomplete and incorrect information.

    They submit their Google based research and all receive a fail for not following instruction and submitting incorrect information.

    The course of least resistance in researching is a few taps on the key board to take the researcher to Google.

    A long time ago in 1948 - 70 years ago- before most of you were born and were certainly were not divers

    The first documented person - diver - swimming with a whale shark was the late great Hans Hass.
    In his 1948 B& W movie "Under the Red Sea" he is shown with an O2 rebreather swimming along the back of a whale shark terminating by hesitating momentarily and looking to the large eye of the shark. At that time approaching a giant of the sea was unchartered territory-- would the diver be swallowed or bit or harmed in some unknown way


    It was a unexpected thrill for the movie audiences then and if the movie was currently available would still be a supper thrill.

    A B&W picture of the same event was also included in one of his books, ether
    Men and Sharks published in 1949 and Manta in 1952

    I personally have never seen a whale shark and if I did I would swim a respectable distance away to respect their territory and hopefully they would respect mine. In the beginning divers were very few in number and marine life flourished , now divers are plentiful and we should all do our part individually and collectively to protect what remains of out marine life for all to enjoy


    @boulderjohn often quotes from recently published books... a list of the late great Hans Hass books
    which were published in America-- perhaps will expand his and the readers horizons a wee bit
    :
    Men and Sharks 1949
    Manta- 1952
    Diving to Adventure 1952
    We come from the Sea 1959
    Challenging the deep 1971
    Men beneath the sea 1971

    (all of the books have been personally escribed to me by Dr Hass and his diving partner and wife Lotte)

    For those of you who are fluent in German may I suggest
    Hans Hass:
    Ein Leben Lang auf Expedition (a life of expeditions )
    ein portrat
    By Dr. Michael Jung
    1994, Stuttgart
    336 pages, hard cover with dust jacket , Illustrated
    (personally inscribed by Drs. Hass & Jung - It paid to be a bibliophile )

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    For you budding UW photographers with your Go Pros
    "Fotojagd am Meeresgrund "
    by Hans Hass
    1942 (recall history - WW11 was on and German was being bombed day and night )
    223 pages hard cover (no dust jacket)
    Illustrated with B&W and COLOR UW photographs
    (Extremely rare book)

    Ich Tauchiet in den 7 meeren
    (I dive in the 7 seas)
    Dr. Hans Hass
    1957 Leipzig
    164 pages - hard cover no dust jacket
    Illustrated with B&W and color UW photographs

    Enough for one California morning- the sun is shining brightly it is time for a walk on the beach with little dog Lucky

    Sam Miller, 111"
     
  5. Soloist

    Soloist Solo Diver

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    I throughly enjoy spearfishing, pole spearing lionfish and catching lobsters, so I fail to see the comparison. Earlier in the thread the four morons riding the shark in the attached video were considered to be no different than cleaner fish. I have yet to see cleaner fish with fingernails, carrying a camera, wearing stiff dive fins, unable to swim, weigh 200 pounds, wearing abrasive wetsuit materials or have dive consoles, SMB’s, inflators, octos and God knows what else hanging off of them.
     
  6. caruso

    caruso Banned

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    You think the divers are scratching the whale shark with their fingernails?

    I never thought of that. Could be an issue especially if they nick an artery
     
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  7. wetb4igetinthewater

    wetb4igetinthewater Instructor, Scuba

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    I think someone posted a few pages ago that no one is convincing the other.

    A friend of mine told me once “if you argue with a moron, there are two morons arguing.”
     
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  8. IncreaseMyT

    IncreaseMyT Banned

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    Yes you can’t have people calling others defaming and deragotory names. But if people want to “interact” with each other and back up statements with pertinent information, that’s great.

    But it’s obvious my opinion doesn’t matter, only the other opinion matters. Because the other opinion still hasn’t posted a single shred of evidence that interacting with whale sharks is bad, yet people keep parroting the information.

    Nothing like patting yourself on the back I guess, some people just don’t wanna hear the truth

    The boards are a double edged sword, you can learn a lot of information fast, but you can also learn the wrong information fast. Once a fallacy starts circling, you can prove it wrong 100 times, yet people will still continue to parrot the unsubstantiated information.
     
  9. Jack Hammer

    Jack Hammer Solo Diver

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  10. flyboy08

    flyboy08 ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    And if you do it on the internet, your a moron squared...why would one have to post evidence that sticking a sharp object in ones eye will hurt?
     

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