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Fire on dive boat Conception in CA

Discussion in 'Accidents & Incidents' started by divezonescuba, Sep 2, 2019.

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  1. roakey

    roakey Old, not bold diver ScubaBoard Supporter

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    And a huge hole in the floor of the salon that people coming up the stairway and heading out the salon exit would fall into...

    The floor above any escape hatch must basically be made unusable and out of the flow of traffic. Hence my design, such as it is, above.

    Roak
     
  2. Marie13

    Marie13 Great Lakes Mermaid ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Here’s the website: Diving Info - Isle Royale Charters

    If it’s going between MN and Isle Royale, wouldn’t it have to be US flagged?
     
  3. Wookie

    Wookie Curmudgeon Apprentice ScubaBoard Business Sponsor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Where is Isle Royale?
     
  4. Marie13

    Marie13 Great Lakes Mermaid ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Large island in Lake Superior that is a US National Park.
     
  5. lexvil

    lexvil Contributor

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    And just look at the size of that “Z” level hatch!
     
  6. acidrush

    acidrush Contributor

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Singapore
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    I used to work in the offshore oil and gas industry and every lob I've been on (my experience is limited to asia, mainly Indonesia), I always do the following on the 1st day:
    1) Find out where the life jackets are
    2) Test the alternate exit or escape hatch
    3) Try to remember my exit route (main and alternate)
    4) Sleep with a glow stick with me on my bed
    5) Find out the location and who is responsible for getting the epirb in an evacuation and remember his/her name and face.

    On another note, I sincerely hope i do not offend anyone. This is a boat operating in a first world country is it legal to have an escape hatch where you have to clamber on a bunk to get out and also pack the sleep quarters like sardines? The only dives I've done in america was a cattle boat out of Oahu on a day trip in the 90s so pardon me if anything i wrote is offensive as my knowlege of that part of the world is limited to non existent. 2 Singaporeans died on this boat. My condolences to the families.
     
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  7. Texas Torpedo

    Texas Torpedo Pollo Grande Tejano! ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Location: College Station, Texas
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    I seriously doubt the fire started in the bunk area. Had a small device flamed, I suspect someone would have noticed it before people were overcome. Actually, I don't think a phone sized lipo would be capable of overcoming everyone down there. Start a fire? Yep.. But, it wouldn't be raging for a while, and I'd like to think a good number would have made it out.

    I'm sure a whole lot of you have googled / youtub'd lipos burning, but if not, here's one that is most likely smaller than the batteries in a lot of can lights. (Can't see the specs) Now imagine if you had one many times it size cook off, and set off all the other batteries on that table. Notice how quiet it burns, outside of the guy shooting it with what I assume is a pellet gun. It's no different to what happens when one ruptures from overcharging or shorting. The crew likely wouldn't know it until it was a massive fireball. IF one of the crew was actually woken up by a pop or a snapping sound, it could have been some type of plastic or other battery enclosure breaking at ignition.


    I'd really like to know if there were DPV's on this trip. Don't expect to find out any time soon.
     
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  8. outofofficebrb

    outofofficebrb HARRO HUNNAYYY

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    Testing the escape hatch/alternate exit is going to be on my list of to-dos as soon as I board a liveaboard now. As for the EPIRB, do yourself and your traveling companions a favor and get a PLB. Don't rely on someone else to grab one if it is that important for you. It's also good to have if you ever get swept from a dive site or are left somewhere, despite your efforts to minimize or eliminate the perceived possibility. You can even use it for land activities, especially if you are going somewhere remote.
     
  9. lizardqueen

    lizardqueen Registered

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: LA
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    OK so I guess I didn't do a great job of making my point...I'd like to see review of escape hatch regs, but what Roak said:
    34 people below, 5 on the top deck [1 ostensibly awake] and no one heard a fire alarm on such a small boat.

    When I lived in NYC I woke my neighbors burning toast, and I was well aware when the lady downstairs was cooking drunk. All we had were crappy little devices mandated by the city.
     
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  10. cerich

    cerich ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    good advice and yes it is legal.
     
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