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Florida Mini Season

Discussion in 'Florida' started by Zieg, Jul 28, 2020.

  1. markmud

    markmud Self Reliant Diver--On All Dives.

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: South Lebanon, Ohio
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    That is not a good idea. Mariners must give aid, by law. Ana's friend was not in immediate and imminent peril--Ana and Zieg had another bottle of O² and first responders were on their way. Drifting divers on the ocean's surface with no immediate surface support is no joke. I have been involved with real man-overboard situations. Finding people on a flat calm ocean is not that easy; it becomes quite difficult when seas are running. People make for a very small target on a vast ocean.

    Ana and Zieg; Thank your taking your responsibilities as mariners seriously. By your account, you did an excellent job! Three people owe you much gratitude.

    cheers,
    m²V2
     
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  2. letterboy

    letterboy Thank you for your service, Frank ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Are they, Ana and ziegg, medical professionals trained to recognize the danger their friend was in?

    I am not dismissing that someone floating at sea needs assistance. But they were not in immediate danger, the Diver on their boat needed professional medical assistance. A delay of a few minutes could have cost that Diver their life.

    If there was first responders in route to their boat, I believe three boats showed up to assist, could they not have gone to pickup the divers, sea tow perhaps.

    Shrug. Different strokes for different folks.
     
  3. markmud

    markmud Self Reliant Diver--On All Dives.

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: South Lebanon, Ohio
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    Hi Letterboy,

    Different Strokes? Will that be your legal defense in your criminal negligence trial?

    At the least, if you are ever in that situation and you are the PIC of the vessel, that is required by law to give aid to people who are in real danger, you should call the USCG and get their permission to leave people floating free on the ocean. Don't make that decision on your own.

    Cheers,
    m²V2
    Former Tug Boat Captain, Fish Boat Captain. From Alaska to the Panama Canal, The Caribbean and east coast of Florida.
     
  4. letterboy

    letterboy Thank you for your service, Frank ScubaBoard Supporter

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    No, my legal defense will be I am not a trained medical provider and only know that during the training I received it was stressed to get a person with a dive injury to proper medical care asap. I would say I made the best decision I could at the time, divers floating in open water were spotted, I called it over channel 16 to alert other vessels in the area and emergency personnel there were divers in the water.

    If they want to press charges for that, have at it.

    But this is south florida.
     
  5. Ana

    Ana Solo Diver

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: Pompano Beach, FL
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    I can only say that after all our years working offshore neither my husband or I would be able to sleep at night if we abandoned someone in the water.

    Is not about them, if you stop and think about the profile of these divers it takes 1/2 minute to realize they are not very bright, but it is about us.
    You can't unsee people asking for help once you see them. It goes beyond the law... Even if I wasn't nice to them we got them out of the water.

    I'd like to think I didn't jeopardize my friend's health by that delay. But who knows, all our training in first aid, stop the bleed, O2 provider and whatever other little medical emergency courses we've taken do say that time is of the essence.


    Fortunately she's ok and the doctor at the chamber actually cleared her for future diving.
     
  6. johndiver999

    johndiver999 Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Gainesville FL
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    Based on my experience, the local Coast Guard will pursue no action against a recreational boater who abandons and provides no help to an individual who is in distress while in the water. Glad to hear you friend is doing well.
     
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  7. Tom Winters

    Tom Winters Instructor, Scuba

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Boca Raton, FL
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    I skipped mini season this year.
    My wife went to Montana for a while the day before it began, my boat has been in Trinidad now for three years and I just never got around to buying another one, plus I didn’t want to be on a crowded commercial boat anyway.
    When I see the boat charters’ pics of everyone gathered in the stern for the group photo on the ride in, my blood runs cold.
     
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  8. Catito

    Catito Barracuda

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Palm Beach County, Fl
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    Wow! Despite the chaotic scene you saved 3 lives. Hope your friend is okay. What a trip. What about the other divers? No boat?
     
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