I hope this is a joke. If it isn't' you obviously have no idea about the attributes of a fundies class and therefore shouldn't comment. Probably the most useless comment on sb in a while.
GUE Fundies vs UTD Extreme Scuba Upgrade
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I hope this is a joke. If it isn't' you obviously have no idea about the attributes of a fundies class and therefore shouldn't comment. Probably the most useless comment on sb in a while.
You are very fortunate to have Submerged in your area, Jon and Tanya are excellent instructors. I’m very confident you’ll be challenged, dramatically improve your skills and enjoy it. In fact, I’m so confident, if you don’t feel you’ve been challenged and vastly improved your skills I’ll send you $100. Seriously.
Fair enough! But if there is any exception to the axiom "it's the instructor, not the agency" it would be GUE and UTD.
As time goes on, I disagree with this statement, as I feel the agency sets the framework, foundation if you will, from which the instructor is supposed to work from. Agency selection is important, and once that is selected, then the instructor.
I would agree that not every instructor's way of teaching mesh with every student's way of learning, even if the instructor objectively meets strict quality control requirements imposed by the agency. So, yes, the instructor does still matter if you want to get the most out of a class.
EireDiver606
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I would go GUE because I’ve done it and it was awesome. They seem pretty similar although UTD is the bastard child of GUE. It’s like Jon Snow in the Stark household in Game of Thrones....
Let the comparisons begin.
Let the comparisons begin.
So... you're saying you think UTD is better than GUE? I mean, I'm pretty sure JS is supposed to be the rightful king...
Absolutely the instructor matters, but I believe that the agency still needs first consideration as they set what skills can be taught and in what order. And even the best instructor is a good fit for everyone
As an outsider, the big differences I've noticed between the two seem to be:
UTD embraces sidemount (although maybe GUE does now too? I might be out of date) and some other gear that GUE eschews (gas switch blocks etc)
UTD teaches "Ratio Deco" for dive time figurin' out. RD is controversial. Some hate it, some love it. There's loads of discussions about it in other threads.
Both seem to have a similar focus on basic skills like trim and buoyancy.
UTD embraces sidemount (although maybe GUE does now too? I might be out of date) and some other gear that GUE eschews (gas switch blocks etc)
UTD teaches "Ratio Deco" for dive time figurin' out. RD is controversial. Some hate it, some love it. There's loads of discussions about it in other threads.
Both seem to have a similar focus on basic skills like trim and buoyancy.
Ryan Mcshane
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